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Re: FINAL POST: 1974, Makarios, EU and Today!

Postby MrH » Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:58 am

Also, when you talk about an 800'000 strong Greek Cypriot populated ROC against our 500'000 person populated TRNC, you clearly have some delusional mathematical formula that includes all the old people, women and children too baring arms! What you fail to realise is that in a full scale War scenario with Turkey's 82 Million Populated country, Greece's tiny 11 Million with Greek Cyprus' 800'000, totalling to 11.8 Million let's say, is NO match ever for Turkey's AVAILABLE MANPOWER of over 46 Million Conscripts. You see my, again, delusional Greek Cypriot compatriots, when you talk able MILITARY POWER in Cyprus make sure you know the difference between Conscripts and Active military personnel!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHAcha7iohw
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Re: FINAL POST: 1974, Makarios, EU and Today!

Postby Get Real! » Sat Jul 29, 2017 12:52 pm

MrH wrote:...with Turkey's 82 Million Populated country,

Not that I know how you went from Varosi to war but...

Are you counting the 12 million Kurds as Turkish allies who would come against Cypriots? :lol:

That's a little difficult because not only do they hate Turks but we funded them for many years!
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Re: FINAL POST: 1974, Makarios, EU and Today!

Postby DrCyprus » Sat Jul 29, 2017 1:23 pm

http://www.dw.com/en/unprecedented-dest ... a-19265927

They want to bring the Turkish army to Cyprus. Look at what the Turkish army do to their own 12 million countrymen.
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Re: FINAL POST: 1974, Makarios, EU and Today!

Postby Kikapu » Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:10 pm

MrH, you have written a lot here on the CF over the years and nothing you have predicted has ever come true. You claim to be a "journalist", but what kind are you? The one who reports unbiased
factual news, or are you an opinion columnist, because if we are to take you as a serious journalist with integrity, they you should stick to your word and be off the Cyprus Forum already, because you are becoming like an unwelcome rash on my ass that just won't go away? :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Re: FINAL POST: 1974, Makarios, EU and Today!

Postby MrH » Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:43 pm

Kikapu,

Thank you for your post, trust me when I say that I only write in response to The profanity I receive from the Greek Cypriots. I have tried so many times to compromise with them, but the unfortunate truth is that if it's not their way it's unfortunately the highway. Like how the Czechs and the Slovak eventually came to loggerheads, it's about time we separate from our paths too in Cyprus. The answer to your question regarding my profession as a former journalist is simple. Due to the nature of this forum; it being an open forum too, I am unfortunely unable to devulge any additional information other than accept the rude remarks from our Greek Cypriot friends on this forum. Trust me when I say that I am fully aware of your standpoint as I spent two years covering Mr Alpay Durduran and his son from YKP a few years ago, but you also should know that I have personally withnessed the good and the bad of our history. I am a retired journalist Kikapu. I was there when the UN were digging up our women and children from unmarked graves in yhe 1960s and 74. But I also appreciate, like between Germany and the U.K., although bad things may have happened in the past, we must look to the future. I get it 100%. But, Cyprus unfortunately has too many hands in the pie with their own agenda and the only way forward is via confidence building measures leading to an overall settlement, which is impossible when the GC lead ROC chooses to ignore our Turkish Cypriot people and use Turkey to keep us isolated. They constantly play in Turkeys hand, thus the pendulum swings again decade after decade. Unless there's a two federal state formula as a stage one of an overal vision for a United Cyprus, the Cyprus issue will eventually lead to complete partition. Please read the 1977 High Level agreements and accept that everything has failed since 1977 because the Greek Cypriots are ignoring International agreements. Turkey will only accept what those agreements entail, which is why the Greek Cypriot strategy decade after decade is to deny our BASIC freedom for direct trade, keep us dependent on Turkey as if it will eventually cause us to repel, but has actually been the contrary. It has pushed us further away from unifying with the Greek Cypriots and closer to Turkey. Today, we have only one chance left and that's either for the Greek Cypriots to call Turkey's bluff and extend its hand to us in the form of some kind of lifting of the trade embargoes in order to show us that we can form some union together, or accept that our fate that Turkey is the only other peoples whom we can see the world through their telescope until our population eventually integrates with Turkey. The Greek Cypriots need to drop that chip off their shoulder before they truly lose Northern Cyprus indefinitely.
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Re: FINAL POST: 1974, Makarios, EU and Today!

Postby akiner » Mon Jul 31, 2017 1:28 am

DrCyprus wrote:http://www.dw.com/en/unprecedented-destruction-of-kurdish-city-of-cizre/a-19265927

They want to bring the Turkish army to Cyprus. Look at what the Turkish army do to their own 12 million countrymen.


12 Mil? More than half voted for current government, it is not a problem of ethnicity you fool!

American diplomat John Tirman estimated the Kurds in Istanbul to number 4 million people (1997). According to another estimation, the Kurds in Istanbul, Ankara, Izmir and other big cities (not including those inside the "Kurdish provinces") constitute 35% of the total Turkish Kurd population. Go figure out yourself!
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Re: FINAL POST: 1974, Makarios, EU and Today!

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:44 am

akiner wrote:12 Mil? More than half voted for current government, it is not a problem of ethnicity you fool!

I'm sure that according to Erdo 99.99% always vote for him and think he's God's gift to mankind. :lol:
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Re: FINAL POST: 1974, Makarios, EU and Today!

Postby tsukoui » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:27 am

MrH, I, unlike you, go on other forums, seeking allegiances. It is true that I was thrown off the Rasta forum, first for seeking to join Boko Haram, and then, when I was finally let back on, for wasting everyone's time. The latter I fully accept, I was relapsing, and desperate to lead a sexual life that was fulfilling, rather than disciplining myself with craven images (porn) that I begged for some sort of relief and was dismissed as a rent-a-dread. However, the point remains, I sought out allies in solidarity and tried to tell my story to the world. MrH, I ask again, why is it that we never hear a peep in the international press about how oppressed TCs are by the military/settlers of the deep state colonisers? If you are so keen to preserve your TC culture, why do you not seek to advertise that those who would bring back the Ottomans are trying to wipe you out? Am I naïve? Is it so hard to get your voice heard? You are free to talk here, so why not to the press?
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Re: FINAL POST: 1974, Makarios, EU and Today!

Postby MrH » Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:06 pm

http://www.lgcnews.com/turkey-withdraws-international-trading-certificates-for-trnc-companies/

Assimilation with Turkiye has started! Hmmmmm, what was that you was saying Kikapu about my suggestion not coming to Frutition? As I've said all along, The Maras/Varosha being rehabilitated by the TRNC, Turkey capturing all operations of TC based companies......and many more to come, will make the Greek Cypriots swim in their own vermin for demanding the impossible for the comprehensive settlement based on an equal Federal footing with the Treaty of Guarantee and Alliance firmly in place! Good Luck!

If you currently live in the TRNC Kikapu and are part of the YKP Durduran Socialist party with your imaginative and idealist, and unrealistic vision, you'd better move across the "Cease Fire Line" to the only EU area of the island of Cyprus seeing that both the TRNC and the two Huge British Bases are NOT! Wake up and smell the roses Kikapu my friend. Trust me when I say that I have been where you are, even stayed on the Greek Side for a while and woke up quicker than Snorting Cocaine!
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Re: FINAL POST: 1974, Makarios, EU and Today!

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:35 pm

...thanks for the link, the article is interesting; i don't read it the same way you do it seems.

Turkey needs a Cyprus united. A Cyprus united is a Turkey united; think about it.
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