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Tassos Papadopoulos

Postby Sotos » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:24 am

What is your opinion about our president Papadopoulos? How do you think he compares with Cleredes, Vasiliou and Kyprianou?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/2769789.stm
http://www.papadopoulos.com.cy/
http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/cyphome/govhom ... nguageNo=1
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Postby Leonidas » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:58 am

He is a morron
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Postby TheCabbie » Tue Jan 31, 2006 5:23 am

At about the same level as Bush...
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Postby Piratis » Tue Jan 31, 2006 6:55 am

Vasiliou was the best in the economics subjects, but he screwed up in regards to the Cyprus problem. Cleredes was an old man that didn't know what was going on. The country was run by Kouros and the DISY ministers. At least he had Vasiliou in the EU accesion team. That saved his presidency from being a total crap.

Papadopoulos is far from perfect but he is better than Cleredes in all respects and better than Vasiliou in regards to the Cyprus Problem. He is honest and he is a true representative of the majority of Greek Cypriots in regards to the Cyprus Problem.

Beyond that he lacks imagination and thats why we can have somebody better than him. Of course if the choice is again between him and some idiots like last time, then obviously he will win again easily in next elections.
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Postby Agios Amvrosios » Tue Jan 31, 2006 8:20 am

Papadopoulos is a tough old school bull dog and that is what we need in connection to the Cyprus problem.

No body else seems to focus on the legal issues of the Cyprus problem as much. He inherited a lot of baggage from idiots who agreed to what ever was put in front of them. I want a tough negotiator to run Cyprus -no more yes men will do.

I can't think of any body who is suitable to replace him- there are just too many pussies in Cypriot politics.
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Postby Leonidas » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:18 pm

The problem IS that he is too old style.
We need need some new blood with open mind to work out a solution. IF we still are with the old mentalities we will be talking about this in the same way in centuries.

NEW world needs new blood. Put the past behind us and go on.

Otherwise like I said many times before.
Pali me hronia me kairous pali dika mas thane. (1453 Konstantinoupolis)
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Postby Rude Gal » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:50 pm

Leonidas wrote:The problem IS that he is too old style.
We need need some new blood with open mind to work out a solution. IF we still are with the old mentalities we will be talking about this in the same way in centuries.

NEW world needs new blood. Put the past behind us and go on.

You know dat! Out with the Old, In with The New!

The Cyprus Problem is not going to be around for ever - either the parties are open and proactive in a positive way, or they remain selfish and narrow, in which case karma and external forces will get there first!

There is no going back to 1963, 1974, etc. We have to deal with today's realities and personally I am optimistic that change will come (this Forum has been good for that) - but not with Papadopoulos at the GC helm!

The man was no.2 for the Akritas Plan, so how can he be right for new way forward? He still trying to finish off what he started back then :lol: , this time cranking up the embargoes any which way he can. He doesn't want to engage with Talat, da, da, da.

As Leonidas says, he is a "moron" (and worse for many TCs) and his ways are losing GCs credibility and respect worldwide. I read in the Cyprus Mail a few days ago a very interesting/timely article: Where did it all go wrong? by Jean Christou, 29/1/06. here are last few paragraphs,

“...The Greek Cypriots must realise people are not going to wait for ever for them to say whether they are ready. The UN will start negotiations as and when the other leading actors say they are ready to start, not when the Greek Cypriots say.”

For one diplomatic source who did not wish to be identified, the matter was simpler. Asked when things had started to go wrong, he said: “It was the moment that the Greek Cypriots could no longer hide behind Denktash’s obduracy and had to step out of the shadows and indicate what their real feelings were. Denktash cast a big shadow and when he stepped out of the way the sun shone into a lot of dark corners.” :wink:
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Re: Tassos Papadopoulos

Postby Rude Gal » Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:55 pm

Sotos wrote:What is your opinion about our president Papadopoulos? How do you think he compares with Cleredes, Vasiliou and Kyprianou?

I think Clerides was a wily old genius in comparison to Papadopoulos. Knew how to play the game, keep relations sweet with TCs and the rest of the World, and if GCs had trusted in him, his "yes" vote would have taken you all to the Promised Land.

The Annan Plan is as good as it gets. It can be tweaked, but the principles will not alter. Instead, the balance of power is going to drift away from GCs who've lost the initiative through their new leader's spite and negativity.

Things do not work in a vacuum...
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Re: Tassos Papadopoulos

Postby Leonidas » Tue Jan 31, 2006 3:57 pm

Rude Gal wrote:
Sotos wrote:What is your opinion about our president Papadopoulos? How do you think he compares with Cleredes, Vasiliou and Kyprianou?

I think Clerides was a wily old genius in comparison to Papadopoulos. Knew how to play the game, keep relations sweet with TCs and the rest of the World, and if GCs had trusted in him, his "yes" vote would have taken you all to the Promised Land.

The Annan Plan is as good as it gets. It can be tweaked, but the principles will not alter. Instead, the balance of power is going to drift away from GCs who've lost the initiative through their new leader's spite and negativity.

Things do not work in a vacuum...


I could not had said it better Gal.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:00 pm

The Annan Plan is as good as it gets.


The legalization of ethnic cleansing is as good as it gets? Even what we have now is better than the Annan partition plan.

If the situation we have now is 100 times bad, the Annan plan would make it 200 times

It is not "as good as it gets", it is "as bad as it will never get".
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