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Postby bg_turk » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:32 pm

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Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 12, 2006 12:10 am

big turk , can I ask you something very simple. Are you a Cypriot ?
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Postby bg_turk » Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:59 am

miltiades wrote:big turk , can I ask you something very simple. Are you a Cypriot ?


If you had spelled my name correctly you would have known the answer to your question.
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Postby akiner » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:09 am

miltiades wrote:bg turk, Cyprus has never existed as anything other than Cyprus. The Turkish invasion created the so called "TRNC" . Turkey is well known internationally of having the gift or the stupidity of denying certain realities , one of them being the 15 plus million Kurdish people in Turkey.The other , the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Armenians. They , the Turks , seem to bury their heads in the sand and utterly ignore realities.
Cyprus , not Southern or North , but Cyprus stupid , is the Nation recognised INTERNATIONALY AND BY EUROPE as the only CYPRUS , THAT INCLUDES THE Greeks and the Turks , all are Cypriots. This bullshit of North and South is purely Turkish(mainland ) garbage that will not be seriously taken by Europe.

Turkey wants badly to move on and be part of Europe ---"LoL" who says so!!!----, recognising Cyprus is a prerequisite condition.
How the hell can you seriously defend such an absurdity that a prospective member of the EU steadfastly refuses to recognise a member nation, THE REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS , that includes all Cyprus.
Let me say once more , Cyprus is not Turkish , is not Greek , Cyprus is just that C Y P R U S .


Trnc was created by TC's choice of self-determination right, so there is no difference between creation of "Greece at 1821 or RC at 1960" and TRNC,
so dont you believe democracy militiades, but i know you dont when it does not suit you or it suits for other just like had been suited u:))

My admiration on Greeks "like you" and Armenians grows rapidly day by day when i realize no boundries of these two nation's fantasy world...

Nicey made us a favor, just waste last days of your great journey with daydreaming you old man !!
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 12, 2006 8:15 am

Akiner , I'm one of the lucky people in this world that I have made it to 60 , when you finish day dreaming just imagine you making it to 60 if the ideas you have regarding Cyprus are ever put to test.
"TRNC" was the result of the Turkish invasion full stop.
Turkey does not own Cyprus .You and all other rabble rousers , Greek and Turkish , will not win the day. We are in the 21st century and are not ruled by the Ottoman or Greek Empire . Cyprus is part of Europe .
Turkey needs Europe much more than the other way around.
Can you tell me why you consider my views , those of a genuine Cypriot , as merely daydreaming.
You also tend to think that Turkey does not want to be part of Europe , why do you think that ?
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jun 12, 2006 11:42 am

akiner wrote:
miltiades wrote:bg turk, Cyprus has never existed as anything other than Cyprus. The Turkish invasion created the so called "TRNC" . Turkey is well known internationally of having the gift or the stupidity of denying certain realities , one of them being the 15 plus million Kurdish people in Turkey.The other , the extermination of hundreds of thousands of Armenians. They , the Turks , seem to bury their heads in the sand and utterly ignore realities.
Cyprus , not Southern or North , but Cyprus stupid , is the Nation recognised INTERNATIONALY AND BY EUROPE as the only CYPRUS , THAT INCLUDES THE Greeks and the Turks , all are Cypriots. This bullshit of North and South is purely Turkish(mainland ) garbage that will not be seriously taken by Europe.

Turkey wants badly to move on and be part of Europe ---"LoL" who says so!!!----, recognising Cyprus is a prerequisite condition.
How the hell can you seriously defend such an absurdity that a prospective member of the EU steadfastly refuses to recognise a member nation, THE REPUBLIC OF CYPRUS , that includes all Cyprus.
Let me say once more , Cyprus is not Turkish , is not Greek , Cyprus is just that C Y P R U S .


Trnc was created by TC's choice of self-determination right, so there is no difference between creation of "Greece at 1821 or RC at 1960" and TRNC,
so dont you believe democracy militiades, but i know you dont when it does not suit you or it suits for other just like had been suited u:))

My admiration on Greeks "like you" and Armenians grows rapidly day by day when i realize no boundries of these two nation's fantasy world...

Nicey made us a favor, just waste last days of your great journey with daydreaming you old man !!


Akiner although you may have valid arguements you do not need to attack miltiades who care for Cyprus very much and believes in one Cypriot nation which is noble but unrealistic when we take into account the realities of today and the stance of both sides you soon arrive at the thought that it is merely a pipe dream.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:50 pm

bg_turk, "Compromise. Lets agree to respect each others views no matter how wrong yours may be"

So do you respect Hitlers views about the Jews? Also I hope you understand the difference between respecting views and illegally enforcing your racist views against others.

Trnc was created by TC's choice of self-determination right, so there is no difference between creation of "Greece at 1821 or RC at 1960" and TRNC


What a ridiculous argument! Your "argument" is false on 2 levels:

1) The "trnc" was created by ethnically cleansing the majority of the population and replacing it with foreign settlers. Since when is ethnic cleansing part of "self-determination" or any other right?

2) How can the north part of Republic of Cyprus fall into TCs "self determination right" when that part had 80% Greek Cypriot population??

Maybe the minority of Greeks than now live in Turkey have the "self-determination" right of ethnically cleansing half Turkey from the Turks and declaring a separate country there?

If you didn't realize it yet, the fact that the illegal pseudo state of "trnc" was created in a criminal way, and the fact that that part of Republic of Cyprus can not be called "Turkish" since only 18% of it belongs to Turks, are the reasons that "trnc" is not, and will never be recognized.
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Postby bg_turk » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:56 pm

Piratis wrote:So do you respect Hitlers views about the Jews? Also I hope you understand the difference between respecting views and illegally enforcing your racist views against others.


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I understand that the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus has established a property comission and that you will have to splash into the reality that Greek Cypriots are completely free to apply for restitution and compensation to the courty of the TRNC.

Nothing but your own prejudices stops you from getting your human rights back.

Welcome to the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, Piratis!
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:02 pm

bg_turk , carry on dreaming
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Postby bg_turk » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:22 pm

Piratis wrote:The "trnc" was created by ethnically cleansing the majority of the population and replacing it with foreign settlers. Since when is ethnic cleansing part of "self-determination" or any other right?


Most states have been created by ethnic cleansing, including TUrkey, Greece and Bulgaria. Unlike its older counterparts, the TRNC is now taking corrective measures to undo as much as possible the wrongs done during its creation, and Greek Cypriots refugees that have been unfairly displaced must be and will be fully compensated and repropriated as full and equal citizens of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.
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