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Postby ARMENIAN CYPRIOT » Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:26 am

I must say I was very pleased to see that alot of Turks that didnt agree with his beliefs still tended to respect him. May Hrant Dink rest in peace.
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Postby bg_turk » Thu Jan 25, 2007 9:35 am

Some images from the funeral in Istanbul:

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/content/gale ... leriid=789

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Postby zan » Thu Jan 25, 2007 10:34 am

Thanks BG and well done to the Turkish people.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:42 pm

zan wrote:Thanks BG and well done to the Turkish people.


Indeed the Turkish people are very good in following the directions of their government. I wonder how many would be out demonstrating if the Turkish government had managed to jail this guy some time ago.
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Postby cypezokyli » Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:14 pm

a big thanks to the turkish people...who in contrast to their goverment attended the funeral
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Jan 25, 2007 3:25 pm

Piratis wrote:
zan wrote:Thanks BG and well done to the Turkish people.


Indeed the Turkish people are very good in following the directions of their government. I wonder how many would be out demonstrating if the Turkish government had managed to jail this guy some time ago.


do you actually hear yourself Piratis, can u not see how preposterous you sound!??! have you actually ever been to Turkey and is there anything they can do without being blamed for something?

Aggreeing with political views or NOT is one thing, but wanting someone dead for it is a compleatly different thing, yes maybe his views were not the most poppular around, but he definately did not need to die for it, and that is what those thousands of people are saying!

But ofcourse you are not capable of seing this because of your views on the Turks and it is obvious that you have to do something about it if you actually want to be taken as a rational person.
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Postby Piratis » Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:22 pm

shahmaran, Turkey has imprisoned 100s of people and murdered 10s of others because of their beliefs. This includes Turkish citizens, but others as well. (e.g. Theofilos Georgiades). I hope you will not deny this fact. Therefore you should lecture them, not me.

if those thousands of people, the majority of Turks as you want to present it, do not agree with these politically motivated murders and imprisonments, then how comes such actions are implemented by all Turkish governments so far?
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Jan 25, 2007 4:50 pm

You have absolutely no proof nor real facts on youre claims, who are these 100s of people, why were they imprisoned? yet you still claim these conspiracies with no proof but solely acting on youre instinctive dislike of Turks "if its done by a Turk then it must be dodgy". I mean come on man, the guy is a PKK supoprter, what do you expect? Im pretty sure i would not exactly be welcomed with flowers if i came to the South claiming ideas of a similar level.

As you can see, and probably cant understand since i presume you dont speak any Turkish, everyone is protesting agains the government in the pictures, they are protesting against the fact that he was not protected well enough, so dont go around making sweeping statements on Turks, because im pretty sure that the human rights record of Greece is just as appalling and they are part of the EU! At least we dont claim to be sooo EUROPEAN while commiting such acts!
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Postby Piratis » Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:02 pm

I didn't expect that you would deny what is so well known. Didn't you know about "Artcile 301" for "insulting Turkishness" and other such laws that are used by Turkey at will to imprison those that they disagree with? Don't you also know about the numerous murders committed by the Turkish secret service for similar reasons? If you want to deny these thats your choice.

In Greece there are no such laws, no such imprisonments and no murders by the secret service. Please don't try to lower Greece to that level, instead try to bring Turkey up to the EU standards.

My question about the Turkish people is this: If indeed so many (the majority??) disagree with such policies, then how comes every Turkish government supports those kind of actions and laws?
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jan 25, 2007 5:09 pm

The French also have such a law about insulting Armenians how will you excuse that?, they are in the EU and Turkey is still aspiring they do not claim to be European today and will not be for another 15/20 years. They are full aware of the problems but change takes time and determination.
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