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Postby turkcyp » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:20 pm

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Postby insan » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:42 pm

My most admired GC politician is Eleni Mavrou. I love her style of thinking. If she has run for Presidential elections, I would vote for her. :D
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:54 pm

I like PM Erdogan. I think he is looking the right direction, and that he is an honest man. He, of course, has to keep the balances in his internal affairs, so we hear a few things we don't like from time to time, but I think overall he is an improvement in Turkey's political life.
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Postby magikthrill » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:12 pm

tsifteteli and tzatziki. those are turkish, no? :D
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Postby boulio » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:48 pm

number one clincher raki and ouzo 8)
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Postby insan » Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:55 pm

The Greek musicians Vangelis and Demis Roussos are two of my all time favourite artisists.

"Goodbye my love", "Island of Love", "Greek side of my mind", "Greater love", "We shall dance" is just some of his songs I'll never forget. He has a great voice!

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"Pulsar"(I've listened this instrumental electronic masterpiece perhaps more than a thousand times), "chariots of fire", "Derwish" and all of his works with Jon Anderson but especially "I found my way home" and "Friends of Mr. Cairo" by Vangelis.


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Postby magikthrill » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:01 pm

hey since somebody brought up the flag I think the RoC flag designed by a TC is one of the most beautiful flags of the world. :)
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Postby insan » Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:16 pm

And one of my most loved poet is a Greek, Constantine P. Cavafy.



As much as you can
Even if you cannot shape your life as you want it,
at least try this
as much as you can; do not debase it
in excessive contact with the world,
in the excessive movements and talk.

Do not debase it by taking it,
dragging it often and exposing it
to the daily folly
of relationships and associations,
until it becomes burdensome as an alien life.

Constantine P. Cavafy (1913)


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The windows
In these darkened rooms, where I spend
oppresive days, I pace to and fro
to find the windows. -- When a window
opens, it will be a consolation. --
But the windows cannot be found, or I cannot
find them. And maybe it is best that I do not find them.
Maybe the light will be a new tyranny.
Who knows what new things it will reveal.

Constantine P. Cavafy (1903)





Walls
Without consideration, without pity, without shame
they have built great and high walls around me.

And now I sit here and despair.
I think of nothing else: this fate gnaws at my mind;

for I had many things to do outside.
Ah why did I not pay attention when they were building the walls.

But I never heard any noise or sound of builders.
Imperceptibly they shut me from the outside world.

Constantine P. Cavafy (1896)




They should have provided
I have almost been reduced to a homeless pauper.
This fatal city, Antioch,
has consumed all my money;
this fatal city with its expensive life.

But I am young and in excellent health.
My command of Greek is superb
(I know all there is about Aristotle, Plato;
orators, poets, you name it.)
I have an idea of military affairs,
and have friends among the mercenary chiefs.
I am on the inside of administration as well.
Last year I spent six months in Alexandria;
I have some knowledge (and this is useful) of affairs there:
intentions of the Malefactor, and villainies, et cetera.

Therefore I believe that I am fully
qualified to serve this country,
my beloved homeland Syria.

In whatever capacity they place me I shall strive
to be useful to the country. This is my intent.
Then again, if they thwart me with their methods --
we know those able people: need we talk about it now?
if they thwart me, I am not to blame.

First, I shall apply to Zabinas,
and if this moron does not appreciate me,
I shall go to his rival Grypos.
And if this idiot does not hire me,
I shall go straight to Hyrcanos.

One of the three will want me however.

And my conscience is not troubled
about not worrying about my choice.
All three harm Syria equally.

But, a ruined man, why is it my fault.
Wretched man, I am trying to make ends meet.
The almighty gods should have provided
and created a fourth, good man.
Gladly would I have joined him.

Constantine P. Cavafy (1930)
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Postby Piratis » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:01 am

My most admired GC politician is Eleni Mavrou. I love her style of thinking. If she has run for Presidential elections, I would vote for her.


Insan, you were supposed to say something good about an opponent :wink:

Ok something good about Turkey ... The Eurovision contest last year was very good and successful! (does this count? :P )
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:15 am

Piratis wrote:Insan, you were supposed to say something good about an opponent :wink:


I like her, but that's a good one :D :lol: :D
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