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[insan]

Some allegations about N Anastasiades:



Nicos Anastasiades Spills the Beans


Greek Cypriot newspaper Haravgi reported on March 24, that Nicos Anastasiades, the leader of the political party DYSI said: "EU membership means Enosis with Greece."

Newspaper said that Anastasiades made the above claim in a speech he delivered when he attended an event organised in Athens by the members of the PROTOPORIA, the student section of his party.
In his speech Anastasiades talked about two Greek voices in the EU and said that joining Cyprus to the EU means joining Cyprus to Greece.



http://www.tcn-cy.freeuk.com/tcn50.htm#art7


Greek and Greek Cypriot Politicians whose opinions bare no significance regarding the UN Annan plan since they have no basis, no standing and no substance whatsoever:
Christos Stylianides(Aka Dentist), Alecos Markides(Aka Ma Sas parakalo), Averof Neophytou(Aka Foullis), Nicos Anastasiades(Aka Embas i Periptosi), Christos Pourgourides(Aka Anti-tramboukkos), Michalis Papapetrou(Aka Kopellin Naylon), Giorgos Vassiliou(Aka I Androulla ke ego), Constantinos Mitsotakis(Aka Gantemis), Giorgakis A. Papandreou (Aka Zeimbekkiko).

Nevertheless, all of the abovementioned politicians serve one very important (National Security) function that should never be undermined: They serve as the Greek Cypriot alibi to the European and International Public Opinions that the Greek/Greek Cypriot politicians have done ALL they could to convince the people of Cyprus to vote FOR the UN Annan plan in the eminent referenda of the 24 April 2004.
We appreciate that all the abovementioned politicians have undertaken (beneath the table?) and are commissioned by the US to the very difficult (indeed) task of telling lies about the UN Annan plan yet with the overriding objective of serving the Greek National interests of convincing the International Public opinion of our true intentions in accordance to the AKRITAS II plan. (Aka Reverse psychology 101)

Analysis - Christos A. Neophytou BEng BSc MSc MBA PgDL, Barrister At Law candidate

http://unannanplan.agrino.org/


Nicos Anastasiades, Leader of the governing DISI Party, said in a meeting held in Athens on March 22, 2001 with the DISI University Students Group that ?The accession of GCASC to the EU will also mean unification with Greece (Enosis).

http://www.tbmm.gov.tr/ul_kom/kpk/pinkbook.doc



And a bonus about his "father" Clerides:


The final stage of Europeanisation hegemony was completed with the election of the Right wing alliance candidate, Mr Glafkos Clerides in the Presidential election of 1993. The so-called 'European course of Cyprus' was elevated as is prime strategy in resolving the Cyprus problem. In addition to a more New Right style of policies in economics, justified as necessary for accession to the EU and for modernisation purposes on the one hand and the nationalist populism on the other, primarily for internal consumption such as the celebration of the "Helleno-Christian Ideals" in education, the honouring of EOKA fighters and its para-fascist leader Grivas, the "Unitary Defence Doctrine" (the pact with Greece) and the infamous S-300. The "Unitary Defence Doctrine" has effectively been abandoned as apolitical slogan following the S-300 fiasco and the second election of Simitis in Greece. This stage is also marked by the left-wing AKEL abandoning its long-standing anti-EC stance, in favour of a conditional pro-EC policy during its 1996 Congress of.


http://www.imm.gr/Bulletin/Trimikliniotis.html


The angel minds have been the victims of dirty "nationalist" poltics of a big group of Hellenes. Now I can understand Piratis situation much better.

[boulio]

yes it does mean union with greece if cyprus ascedded to the eu and union with italy,malta,belgium,france,finland etc.,etc.etc.etc.

[Saint Jimmy]

Insan,

the foundation of DISY's success: they speak tough and act soft, thus attracting supporters from both sides.

If you look at what they say in public speeches, aiming at political benefit, you'll probably get a heart attack
If you look at the essence of their decisions and their actions, you'll see what I'm talking about.

[Piratis]

Anastasiades is one of those persons who will use any means, ethical or unethical to exterminate his political opponents.

He managed to get the leadership of DISY and maintain it by exterminating anybody that had a different opinion. In last presidential elections he was making promises to Ominrou of EDEK that DISI would support him for president with the only aim to brake the 3 party alliance that supported Papadopoulos. Then in the end he said "sorry, changed my mind" to Omirou. (but in the "end end" he got my three, since Papadopoulos was elected from the first round anyways).

He is know to throw ashtrays to other members of his party when they disagree with him (this is not what I say, Anastasiades admitted it several times).

This person has a lot of personal ambitions, and his is ready to walk over dead bodies to achieve them.

Ok, I will stick to the well known facts about him because they are more than enough for anybody that knows him, although there are a lot of other things I could mention about him and his family.

[Saint Jimmy]

This person has a lot of personal ambitions, and his is ready to walk over dead bodies to achieve them.

His family is of no concern.

About the above part, this is the very argument that proves to me that he is a good man, despite his flaws, some of which lie in some of what you wrote (the 'Omirou' thing is a very long story - not his fault).
If he does have personal ambitions (ultimately to become president, presumably...?), why does he not take a populist stance on political matters (e.g. say no to the A-plan)? And, adding to that, how come he has never, ever, tried to project the image of a good, soft, kind, gentle man, which would be vastly more attractive to voters (much like Christofias's image is)? His insistence on arguing like a mad man with his political opponents (and of course, his unbearably annoying sarcasm) proves to me that he acts not out of ambition, but out of a sense of duty for what he believes.
Unless you think he is stupid enough to believe that he can attract voters with this image (reminder: numerous popularity polls among political party figureheads constantly show he comes last, among all political leaders, in personality liking). I don't think so.

[Piratis]

Ok, we disagree on this matter. By personal ambitions I don't mean just his stance in the A plan, but how he managed to maintain the leadership of DESY. We know the man for decades, we are not going to learn who he is now.

I doubt he could be like Christofias even if he wanted too. Being annoying is part of his character.

[Piratis]

the foundation of DISY's success: they speak tough and act soft, thus attracting supporters from both sides.

Personally I see this as a gross stealing of votes. Maybe you agree for example with Cleredes that for decades he was making promises about all refugees returning etc, and then he helped in the cooking of the Annan plan, but personally I see this as stealing the votes and acting behind the back of the people that voted for you.

The president should have space for maneuvers, but he can not say something and do the exact opposite after he is elected.

[Bananiot]

Well said Jimmy. In my opinion Anastasiades is at the moment one of the few politicians in Cyprus with a correct vision of what is needed for a lasting solution. He does not mince his words and he put his party and job on line by going against the grain in the referendum. Like Insan, I used to think that he represented the far right in DISI but he has not behaved in such manner. In fact manyof the far right supporters have left the party and this is a good thing. Of course, they were all dead against the proposed solution.

[Saint Jimmy]

Personally I see this as a gross stealing of votes. Maybe you agree for example with Cleredes that for decades he was making promises about all refugees returning etc, and then he helped in the cooking of the Annan plan, but personally I see this as stealing the votes and acting behind the back of the people that voted for you.

The president should have space for maneuvers, but he can not say something and do the exact opposite after he is elected.

Yep! I agree that it's just what you say. I have no counter-argument there. Just one note: all GC politicians have made the kind of promises Clerides made, perhaps except Vassiliou (after his presidency), but they have all failed to present the flip-side of the coin (that, as they cannot all return, no solution is possible if we stick to that provision!). Extrapolating this fact, I could say that all politicians are involved in what you rightly termed 'stealing of votes'.

In fact manyof the far right supporters have left the party and this is a good thing.

Well, it's not a good thing for the party! I hardly think they'll get any more of those 'hard-liner' votes... But, yeah, I know what you mean.

[Piratis]

In fact manyof the far right supporters have left the party and this is a good thing.

Can you tell us of the far right members that left?

Karras left? How about Samson? How about all those top ranking EOKA B members?

Who left are mostly younger members and supporters, who were either unborn or very young during the 60's. The ones that during the 60's were getting their CIA paycheck to do their dirty job against Makarios, stayed in DESY.