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[supporttheunderdog]

That is not a capsize but a "pitch-pole".

Done that in a Hobie 14: .........not quite so wicked as in that craft.

[Kikapu]

That is not a capsize but a "pitch-pole".

Done that in a Hobie 14: .........not quite so wicked as in that craft.

It is a "pitch-pole". For non-sailors, they ONLY understand one term for everything, "capsize"!

[Kikapu]

This for Nikitas!

Nikitas, you had asked me few years ago, that if I were in San Francisco again, to look up this boat design "Felucca" for you at the SF Maritime Museum. I went at that time as they were closing and couldn't get in, and last year, I didn't have the time, but I went this year just few weeks ago. Here are the pictures for you to see.

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[Nikitas]

Kikapu,

Nice to hear from you, how are you doing? Are you back from the USA?

Warm thanks for those photos. In the summer I was commissioned to write a short article about the San Francisco Feluccas. We fished some pics from the Net. I wish I had these photos back then.

The resemblance of these boats to those of any fishing village along the northern Med shore is amazing. But then, those boatbuilders had no written plans. They carried them in their heads in simple formulae, boat under seven paces length, so many frames per side, equally spaced, and so on. What I find most amazing is the use of the lateen sail. There is a 1930s post card showing literally dozens of similar boats in Piraeus harbor manouvering under identical sails. Yet no one today remembers how to sail a lateen, let alone do it in a crowded harbor.

No need to tell how we are doing. You watch the news. This month the emergency taxes for self employed people come to more than gross income. No one can pay. And we do not all fit in the available jail space. Whoever thought up this scheme must have been a dud at maths in school.

All the best

Nikitas

[Kikapu]

Kikapu,

Nice to hear from you, how are you doing? Are you back from the USA?

Warm thanks for those photos. In the summer I was commissioned to write a short article about the San Francisco Feluccas. We fished some pics from the Net. I wish I had these photos back then.

The resemblance of these boats to those of any fishing village along the northern Med shore is amazing. But then, those boatbuilders had no written plans. They carried them in their heads in simple formulae, boat under seven paces length, so many frames per side, equally spaced, and so on. What I find most amazing is the use of the lateen sail. There is a 1930s post card showing literally dozens of similar boats in Piraeus harbor manouvering under identical sails. Yet no one today remembers how to sail a lateen, let alone do it in a crowded harbor.

No need to tell how we are doing. You watch the news. This month the emergency taxes for self employed people come to more than gross income. No one can pay. And we do not all fit in the available jail space. Whoever thought up this scheme must have been a dud at maths in school.

All the best

Nikitas

Hi Nikitas,

Doing well, thanks. I am back in Switzerland at the moment. Sorry for not getting these pictures to you much sooner, like few years ago. Here are few more which are slightly different for your next project..

That is frightening when taxes asked for equals more than gross income. Might as well quit working and go on the government hand outs.....if there's any!

It is a sad situation I'm afraid, but before others start getting too smug about Greece's predicament, the same could happen else where. It may just be a matter of time, that's all.

Where is "Hercules" when Greece needs it?!!

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[Nikitas]

Hercules looks like a conversion to a yach/houseboat, neat idea. There is a converted tug hanging about the Zea marina now and then, a very capable looking boat.

[supporttheunderdog]

Kikapu,

Nice to hear from you, how are you doing? Are you back from the USA?

Warm thanks for those photos. In the summer I was commissioned to write a short article about the San Francisco Feluccas. We fished some pics from the Net. I wish I had these photos back then.

The resemblance of these boats to those of any fishing village along the northern Med shore is amazing. But then, those boatbuilders had no written plans. They carried them in their heads in simple formulae, boat under seven paces length, so many frames per side, equally spaced, and so on. What I find most amazing is the use of the lateen sail. There is a 1930s post card showing literally dozens of similar boats in Piraeus harbor manouvering under identical sails. Yet no one today remembers how to sail a lateen, let alone do it in a crowded harbor.

No need to tell how we are doing. You watch the news. This month the emergency taxes for self employed people come to more than gross income. No one can pay. And we do not all fit in the available jail space. Whoever thought up this scheme must have been a dud at maths in school.

All the best

Nikitas

Hi Nikitas,

Doing well, thanks. I am back in Switzerland at the moment. Sorry for not getting these pictures to you much sooner, like few years ago. Here are few more which are slightly different for your next project..

That is frightening when taxes asked for equals more than gross income. Might as well quit working and go on the government hand outs.....if there's any!

It is a sad situation I'm afraid, but before others start getting too smug about Greece's predicament, the same could happen else where. It may just be a matter of time, that's all.

Where is "Hercules" when Greece needs it?!!

Nice posts from You and Kikapu on the Felucca.

[Kikapu]

Hercules looks like a conversion to a yach/houseboat, neat idea. There is a converted tug hanging about the Zea marina now and then, a very capable looking boat.

Nikitas, here is more information on the Steam Tugboat "Hercules".

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hercules_(1907)

For some reason, the above link is not working on CF.


Hercules (1907)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Hercules (tugboat)
U.S. National Register of Historic Places
U.S. National Historic Landmark

Steam tug Hercules at Hyde Street Pier, San Francisco Maritime National Historic Park


Location: San Francisco, California
Coordinates: 37°48′36″N 122°25′20″W
Coordinates: 37°48′36″N 122°25′20″W

Built: 1906
Architect: Dialouge,John H. & Son
Architectural style: The Hercules is a 1907 built steam tug, which is now preserved at the San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park in San Francisco, California.
Governing body: National Park Service
NRHP Reference#: 75000225
Significant dates
Added to NRHP: January 17, 1975[1]
Designated NHL: January 17, 1986[2]

The Hercules is a 1907 built steam tug, which is now preserved at the San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park in San Francisco, California.
Contents [hide]
1 History of the Hercules
2 General characteristics
3 References
4 External links
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History of the Hercules
The Hercules was built in 1907 by John H. Dialogue and Son, of Camden, New Jersey. She was built for the Shipowners' and Merchants' Tugboat Company of San Francisco, as part of their Red Stack Fleet. After completion, Hercules was sailed to San Francisco via the Straits of Magellan with her sister ship, the Goliah, in tow.
For the first part of her life, Hercules was an ocean going tug. Because of the prevailing north-west winds, sailing ships often employed Hercules and her sisters on journeys north up the coast from San Francisco. For example, in 1916, Hercules towed the C.A. Thayer to Port Townsend, Washington. On return trips back down the coast, Hercules often towed log rafts of Pacific Northwest timber, to Southern California mills. At other times, Hercules was employed towing barges to other ports on the West Coast and to Hawaii, and in transporting equipment for the construction of the Panama Canal.

In 1924, Hercules was acquired by the Western Pacific Railroad. For her new owners, she worked shuttling railroad car floats across San Francisco Bay from Oakland and Alameda to San Francisco. She worked in this role until 1957, when she was replaced by the diesel-powered train ferry Las Plumas. Hercules was kept in a stand-by role to the new ferry until 1961.
The California State Park Foundation acquired Hercules in 1975, and the National Park Service took over her restoration in 1977. In 1986 she was designated a National Historic Landmark. She is now one of the exhibits of the San Francisco Maritime National Historical Park and is to be found moored at the park's Hyde Street Pier.
Hercules from the show Tugs is based on this real tugs

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General characteristics
▪ Gross tonnage: 409 tons (371 tonnes)
▪ Overall length: 151 ft (46 m)
▪ Beam: 26 ft (7.9 m)
▪ Draft: 11 ft (3.4 m) aft, 10 ft (3 m) forward
▪ Engine: 3 cylinders, triple expansion steam engine
▪ Boiler: Scotch marine fire tube, with four oil-burning furnaces
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References
1. ^ "National Register Information System". National Register of Historic Places. National Park Service. 2007-01-23.
2. ^ "Hercules(tug)". National Historic Landmark summary listing. National Park Service. Retrieved 2008-06-18.
▪ National Park Service (undated). Hercules. Retrieved May 20, 2005.
Frank Brehm (1996–2005). Western Pacific - Marine. Retrieved May 20, 2005.

[Kikapu]

The final race of the America's Cup is now on live at this link, on the Bay of my favourite city of San Francisco.

Winner takes the cup by breaking the 8-8 tie.

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHdmviq1kyg

[Kikapu]

Oh, what a race.

USA WINS.........USA WINS.........USA WINS.........USA WINS.........USA WINS.........