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[Agios Amvrosios]

Will the 33% GC minority in a proposed TC state as envisioned in a bizonal solution have the "minority rights" and "Political equality" enjoyed by the TC component state?.If so, maybe they" will be entitled to form their own break away ethnically pure state within the ethnically pure TC state.

If there is a single Ukranian nite club artiste,then- will she be entitled to her own little state. I would like to visit her state.

[insan]

A while ago I've proposed a "political equality" for permenant GC residents of TCCS. Just like how TCs would be "politically equal" at federal level, the permenant GC residents of TCCS should be given exactly the same "political equality" at the constituent state level.

[insan]

Still not satisfactory?

[erolz]

Still not satisfactory?

at the risk of seeming unfair I do not think 'answers' are AA strong suit. Questions definately (usually loaded but thats just my opinion)

[Saint Jimmy]

Still, I think what is interesting about this kind of question is that the writer has obviously failed to attempt to answer it, before posting it here...
Would the GCs forming a minority in the TC component state be entitled to their own 'component state' within it? Cute question. If they were victims of attempted ethnic cleansing (and, of course, after stupidly retaliating to the attempt), and they had a big brother to back them, sure they would!
But my guess is that neither will they be (subject to attempted ethnic cleansing), nor will they have (a big brother strong enough to back them).

[Piratis]

If they were victims of attempted ethnic cleansing

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[Saint Jimmy]

If they were victims of attempted ethnic cleansing

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I suppose by this you are referring to the fact that they will be subject to restrictions.
Surely, though, a man as preoccupied and concerned with legality as yourself, can tell the difference between the kind of cleansing that TCs went through and the one referred to in the above scenario (legality being the distinctive feature; that is, even accepting that the restrictions in the A-Plan were a form of ethnic cleansing).
If you are referring to something else, forgive me, but your post was not exactly straight-forward.

[Piratis]

I suppose by this you are referring to the fact that they will be subject to restrictions.

No, I am referring to the already executed ethnic cleansing on which the "TRNC" is based.

Or should we talk about the ethnic cleansing in Turkey itself?

[Saint Jimmy]

I suppose by this you are referring to the fact that they will be subject to restrictions.

No, I am referring to the already executed ethnic cleansing on which the "TRNC" is based.

Or should we talk about the ethnic cleansing in Turkey itself?

Aha, I see... Yes, I agree that they have been through some form of ethnic cleansing, although there's not a shred of doubt in my mind that if they could get what they were after without a killing a soul, they would have done it (that is to say that their primary goal was to physically separate the two communities, not to exterminate one).
Of course, we cannot simply erase the preceding events. While not arguing that Turkey was right or can be forgiven for 1974, one must acknowledge that Turkey had an excuse (a legally debatable one, but not definitely unsound legally, either), which is more than one can say for the sort of attempted cleansing that preceded it.

In that respect (the moral one), the answer to AA's original question would be 'if they were subject to ethnic cleansing that had no moral or legal basis, then yes, they could'.

[brother]

I think what jimmy has said carries a lot of merit, but we must stop pointing fingers as piratis done, i know we all have wounds that we are still licking after 30 years but constantly hitting each other in the face with it serves no one at all and just throws us back imo.