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[zan]

All we wanted was legality and our rights. You on the other hand use brute force in an effort to blackmail us and force us to accept your terms for partition. You failed, and you will continue failing in the future just like you failed during the last 33 years.

It is time for you to understand that you can not create a Turkish country on land that is the homeland of 5 times more GCs than TCs, simply by ethnically cleansing the GCs and replacing them with foreigners. If you want to live in a Turkish Republic then go to Turkey because apart from your dreams there is no any other Turkish republic and there will never be one.

Only by murder and intimidation and some more murder did you ever get to say those words of 5 times more GCs than TCs....

Of course. Before the Turks started the murders it was just GCs and some Latins. No TCs at all.

I can feel those numbers welling up inside you Piratis and you are going to burst if you don't let them out Go on quote us some numbers from the Ottoman era.....I personally would like a few from the Alexander era as well but I am sure most people would be bored shitless. I know what...I know it would be novel for you but how about we start from the very first republic set up by Cypriots for Cypriots and one that you should have adhered to and not start killing innocent TCs for the sins of the ancient Turks that you seem to hate so much.....Either that or some Alkaselza

[Piratis]

Zan, you talked about murder, intimidation and crimes that changed the democraphics in Cyprus. This was done by the Turks when they initially invaded Cyprus, when by murder and intimidation they created a muslim community in Cyprus, and then again in the Turkish invasion of 1974 when the Turks ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands of GCs and replaced them with foreign Turkish settlers.

In the inter communal conflict that you talk about (and which you started), both sides lost about an equal number of people, a few 100s each. The percentage of TCs did not change during that period. In fact based on a link that you posted some time ago, the percentage of TCs apparently increased slightly between 1960 and 1974.

The northern part of Cyprus is the homeland of 5+ times more GCs that TCs, and you better start realizing that you can not have a Turkish country on land where GCs are 5+ times more, neither you can simply ethnically cleanse them. As I told you before, if you want to live in a Turkish Republic, Turkey is the only one. Go and live there. Trying to create a "Turkish republic in northern Cyprus" is criminal and illegal, and will remain so.

[zan]

Zan, you talked about murder, intimidation and crimes that changed the democraphics in Cyprus. This was done by the Turks when they initially invaded Cyprus, when by murder and intimidation they created a muslim community in Cyprus, and then again in the Turkish invasion of 1974 when the Turks ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands of GCs and replaced them with foreign Turkish settlers.

In the inter communal conflict that you talk about (and which you started), both sides lost about an equal number of people, a few 100s each. The percentage of TCs did not change during that period. In fact based on a link that you posted some time ago, the percentage of TCs apparently increased slightly between 1960 and 1974.

The northern part of Cyprus is the homeland of 5+ times more GCs that TCs, and you better start realizing that you can not have a Turkish country on land where GCs are 5+ times more, neither you can simply ethnically cleanse them. As I told you before, if you want to live in a Turkish Republic, Turkey is the only one. Go and live there. Trying to create a "Turkish republic in northern Cyprus" is criminal and illegal, and will remain so.

We don't have a place where the GCs are 5 x more....We have the TRNC/KKTC where we are 100% more and are deciding our own future......When and if you decide that you want to play fair and give us back our rights and not try to disrupt the whole country again for political gain then you can join us......If you insist on gaining on the continuation of the Akritas plan then nothing more will happen.

[pantheman]

Long live Tassos Pap.

Amen to that!

Then long live the Cyprus problem and....Viva la TRNC/KKTC.

Amen to that.

Well...The second part anyway...

They are both one and the same

You can't have one without the other, and after 33 years, well who gives a shit ? Can you afford to wait another 33 years ? I doubt it.

But partitionists will be partitionits and they won't ever change.

Dream on boys dream on.

I will tell you what you will end up with...You will be the only ones WITH the problem...We will be getting on with our lives and you will still be taken in by your crying EOKA president. The world and the TRNC/KKTC would have moved on without you....The days of waiting for our GC cousins to come and join us in Cyprus are over...WE cannot afford to sit around and wait for you ant more. Sorry mate, but we tried...We voted yes for a united Cyprus twice now....Once in 1960 and then with the Annan Plan. Good luck with your country...WE have ours to look after now.

Like i said boys dream on, if thats what you think, because it is only in the dreamworld where such criminal and illegal activities can move on.

Reminds me of a song this, dreaaam, dream, dream, dreaaaam, dreaaaaam, dream, dream ........

[zan]

Long live Tassos Pap.

Amen to that!

Then long live the Cyprus problem and....Viva la TRNC/KKTC.

Amen to that.

Well...The second part anyway...

They are both one and the same

You can't have one without the other, and after 33 years, well who gives a shit ? Can you afford to wait another 33 years ? I doubt it.

But partitionists will be partitionits and they won't ever change.

Dream on boys dream on.

I will tell you what you will end up with...You will be the only ones WITH the problem...We will be getting on with our lives and you will still be taken in by your crying EOKA president. The world and the TRNC/KKTC would have moved on without you....The days of waiting for our GC cousins to come and join us in Cyprus are over...WE cannot afford to sit around and wait for you ant more. Sorry mate, but we tried...We voted yes for a united Cyprus twice now....Once in 1960 and then with the Annan Plan. Good luck with your country...WE have ours to look after now.

Like i said boys dream on, if thats what you think, because it is only in the dreamworld where such criminal and illegal activities can move on.

Reminds me of a song this, dreaaam, dream, dream, dreaaaam, dreaaaaam, dream, dream ........

You have taken over the island as sole (supposed) administrator through illegal activities my old mate so that proves it is possible....In your terms anyway.......

[pantheman]

Long live Tassos Pap.

Amen to that!

Then long live the Cyprus problem and....Viva la TRNC/KKTC.

Amen to that.

Well...The second part anyway...

They are both one and the same

You can't have one without the other, and after 33 years, well who gives a shit ? Can you afford to wait another 33 years ? I doubt it.

But partitionists will be partitionits and they won't ever change.

Dream on boys dream on.

I will tell you what you will end up with...You will be the only ones WITH the problem...We will be getting on with our lives and you will still be taken in by your crying EOKA president. The world and the TRNC/KKTC would have moved on without you....The days of waiting for our GC cousins to come and join us in Cyprus are over...WE cannot afford to sit around and wait for you ant more. Sorry mate, but we tried...We voted yes for a united Cyprus twice now....Once in 1960 and then with the Annan Plan. Good luck with your country...WE have ours to look after now.

Like i said boys dream on, if thats what you think, because it is only in the dreamworld where such criminal and illegal activities can move on.

Reminds me of a song this, dreaaam, dream, dream, dreaaaam, dreaaaaam, dream, dream ........

You have taken over the island as sole (supposed) administrator through illegal activities my old mate so that proves it is possible....In your terms anyway.......

Yes Zanny boy yes, whatever you say, ok. Now just get back to bed and keep on dreaming, zzzzzzzzzz i'm so sleepy now zzzzzzzzzz end of.

[zan]

Long live Tassos Pap.

Amen to that!

Then long live the Cyprus problem and....Viva la TRNC/KKTC.

Amen to that.

Well...The second part anyway...

They are both one and the same

You can't have one without the other, and after 33 years, well who gives a shit ? Can you afford to wait another 33 years ? I doubt it.

But partitionists will be partitionits and they won't ever change.

Dream on boys dream on.

I will tell you what you will end up with...You will be the only ones WITH the problem...We will be getting on with our lives and you will still be taken in by your crying EOKA president. The world and the TRNC/KKTC would have moved on without you....The days of waiting for our GC cousins to come and join us in Cyprus are over...WE cannot afford to sit around and wait for you ant more. Sorry mate, but we tried...We voted yes for a united Cyprus twice now....Once in 1960 and then with the Annan Plan. Good luck with your country...WE have ours to look after now.

Like i said boys dream on, if thats what you think, because it is only in the dreamworld where such criminal and illegal activities can move on.

Reminds me of a song this, dreaaam, dream, dream, dreaaaam, dreaaaaam, dream, dream ........

You have taken over the island as sole (supposed) administrator through illegal activities my old mate so that proves it is possible....In your terms anyway.......

Yes Zanny boy yes, whatever you say, ok. Now just get back to bed and keep on dreaming, zzzzzzzzzz i'm so sleepy now zzzzzzzzzz end of.

Sweat dreams!!! You might have a bit of trouble adjusting when you are fully awake but do not worry...It is all natural...

[alexISS]

‘We should really take a hard look at our political situation and where it is leading us’
Kasoulides says ECHR decision should be a wake-up call for government

By Elias Hazou

CYPRUS HAS lost the moral high ground in the international arena, but there may yet be just about enough time to turn the tide, presidential hopeful Ioannis Kasoulides said yesterday.

He was speaking in the wake of reports of a land-swap deal between a Greek and Turkish Cypriot through the European courts.

Greek Cypriot refugee Mike Tymvios, who sought to swap land with a Turkish Cypriot, already had an application with the ECHR when he applied to the property commission.

This has raised two major concerns on the Greek Cypriot side. First, whether the ECHR will accept the deal made through the north’s controversial property commission as an adequate domestic remedy.

It could likely result in thousands of ECHR applications by Greek Cypriot refugees being forwarded to the property commission for settlement.

The second concern relates to the Guardian of Turkish Cypriot Properties, which is part of the Cyprus government, and is the only recognised authority endowed with the power to return land to Turkish Cypriots. This can only take place if the applicant has been residing in the Republic for six months or more.

Assuming the ECHR gave the nod to the land swap, not only would that legitimise the property commission, it would also put the Guardianship on the spot because the Greek Cypriot refugee would be claiming Turkish Cypriot land not legally returned by the Guardian.

In a further negative development for the government, two Turkish Cypriots were recently appointed as judges to the European court.

Kasoulides said yesterday that this train of events was inextricably linked to the government’s poor diplomatic record.

“The cause for the change in stance of the ECHR [toward Greek Cypriot refugees] is that the climate has been completely reversed with regard to our diplomatic and moral superiority.”

“Let’s face it, accept it and deal with it. Having the sympathy and support of the international community is imperative for Cyprus…” he added.

Asked by newsmen what he would do differently were he President,

Kasoulides said he would have “undertaken initiatives three years ago” and
that he would have taken action immediately following the ruling on the Xenides-Arestis case, which brought the Turkish Cypriot property commission to the fore.

And in an apparent dig at President Tassos Papadopoulos’ foreign policy, he remarked: “I believe that with the policy I represent, the EHCR decisions would have been totally different.

“There was a time when Cyprus was on a roll diplomatically, when we had the moral high ground, we had the triumphs of the Titina Loizidou case… so now we should really take a hard look at our political situation and where it is leading us,” he remarked.

Kasoulides also urged Greek Cypriots to avoid dealing with the north’s property commission. He said people should not get carried away by “a couple of [property] settlements,” since this could be a ploy by Ankara to legitimise the commission, after which all the remaining applications would be turned down.

The former Foreign Minister made the comments after meeting with a delegation of SADITOP, the Association for the Human Rights of Owners of Properties held by Turkey.

SADITOP chairman Yiannakis Erotocritou called on the government to “stop burying its head in the sand and come up with a practical solution, before it’s too late for the properties and for the Cyprus problem in general”.
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Kassoulides is right, but unfortunately that's going to cost him many votes...

[paliometoxo]

Overseas Cypriots to vote online?

OVERSEAS Cypriots may be able to vote electronically during the coming presidential elections, if a law proposed by opposition DISY is approved.
According to DISY’s Christos Stylianides, who suggested the matter be discussed during yesterday’s House Interior Committee, the aim of the proposal is to modernise voting laws with the introduction of electronic voting.

“The ability to exercise the right to vote for Cypriot citizens abroad is considered absolutely necessary, because it is a measure that will firstly help voters to express their political opinions without any difficulties, and secondly because it will offer all voters living abroad the right to have an immediate say in events on the island,” said Stylianou.
Discussions will continue next week.



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that would be good i hope the law passes