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What are the essentials of any viable settlement ?

Propose and discuss specific solutions to aspects of the Cyprus Problem

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:28 am

1.) a State, two National Assemblies; three governments: Bi-communal

2.) many small (but sustainable) enclaves scattered in either territory, to allow for the return of Cypriots either Turcophone or Grecophone as communities (as well as Individuals anywhere else), equitable and futuristic redistribution of land, and to accomodate settlers with homes, instead of houses; many parts: Bi-zonal.
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Postby halil » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:14 am

phoenix wrote:1. Complete withdrawal of Turkish Troops and their effects. Disinfection to follow.
2. Return of Turkish settlers plus offspring, to their spawning grounds.
3. Expulsion of traitor TCs and partitionists to whoever will have them.
4. Recouping of homes by rightful owners.
5. Declaration of Greek ( + modifications) as unitary Official language.
6. Closure of BAYRAK.
7. Continuation of existing RoC government without recourse to reservations for inclusion of TCs in its running, bar, any that have been Democratically elected
8. Ceremonial Clean-up (by remaining TCs :lol: ) of Pentadaktylos to eradicate the defacing tyrannical-fascist insignia.
9. Public holiday to celebrate "Liberty and Autarchy Day".
10. Enjoy a bright and fruitful future. 8)


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Postby Kifeas » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:33 am

phoenix wrote:1. Complete withdrawal of Turkish Troops and their effects. Disinfection to follow.
2. Return of Turkish settlers plus offspring, to their spawning grounds.
3. Expulsion of traitor TCs and partitionists to whoever will have them.
4. Recouping of homes by rightful owners.
5. Declaration of Greek ( + modifications) as unitary Official language.
6. Closure of BAYRAK.
7. Continuation of existing RoC government without recourse to reservations for inclusion of TCs in its running, bar, any that have been Democratically elected
8. Ceremonial Clean-up (by remaining TCs :lol: ) of Pentadaktylos to eradicate the defacing tyrannical-fascist insignia.
9. Public holiday to celebrate "Liberty and Autarchy Day".
10. Enjoy a bright and fruitful future. 8)


It sounds pretty much like Kemal’s top-down reformation directives upon establishing the Republic of Turkey! It seems we have another one with a Kemaloglu surname in the forums! Should we also start calling the TCs as "mountain Greeks?"
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Postby miltiades » Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:05 am

zan wrote:FULL 1960 constitution

Compensation to ALL land owners

All land that is not being utilised to go back to the "RoC"

Zan's contribution the only sensible one apart from the usage of the inverted commas .
As for Eric the clown and Phoenix the exterminator what can you say , they both share the same genes those of the original caveman/woman where in " prehistoric society was divided into separate, distinct cultures.""

A return to the 1960 constitution is by far the most viable solution .The rest will follow with the guidance of the UN and Europe.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:26 am

phoenix wrote:1. Complete withdrawal of Turkish Troops and their effects. Disinfection to follow.
2. Return of Turkish settlers plus offspring, to their spawning grounds.
3. Expulsion of traitor TCs and partitionists to whoever will have them.
4. Recouping of homes by rightful owners.
5. Declaration of Greek ( + modifications) as unitary Official language.
6. Closure of BAYRAK.
7. Continuation of existing RoC government without recourse to reservations for inclusion of TCs in its running, bar, any that have been Democratically elected
8. Ceremonial Clean-up (by remaining TCs :lol: ) of Pentadaktylos to eradicate the defacing tyrannical-fascist insignia.
9. Public holiday to celebrate "Liberty and Autarchy Day".
10. Enjoy a bright and fruitful future. 8)



As you have declared/admitted that your aim is to provoke and mock, all the points you raise are null and void (in their present formation).


Start again. :roll:
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Postby phoenix » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:30 am

halil wrote:
phoenix wrote:1. Complete withdrawal of Turkish Troops and their effects. Disinfection to follow.
2. Return of Turkish settlers plus offspring, to their spawning grounds.
3. Expulsion of traitor TCs and partitionists to whoever will have them.
4. Recouping of homes by rightful owners.
5. Declaration of Greek ( + modifications) as unitary Official language.
6. Closure of BAYRAK.
7. Continuation of existing RoC government without recourse to reservations for inclusion of TCs in its running, bar, any that have been Democratically elected
8. Ceremonial Clean-up (by remaining TCs :lol: ) of Pentadaktylos to eradicate the defacing tyrannical-fascist insignia.
9. Public holiday to celebrate "Liberty and Autarchy Day".
10. Enjoy a bright and fruitful future. 8)


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I'm sure we would still be able to pick you up by satellite even if you transmitted from Turkey . . . so that's not TOO bad is it? :D
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Postby phoenix » Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:40 am

Kifeas wrote:
phoenix wrote:1. Complete withdrawal of Turkish Troops and their effects. Disinfection to follow.
2. Return of Turkish settlers plus offspring, to their spawning grounds.
3. Expulsion of traitor TCs and partitionists to whoever will have them.
4. Recouping of homes by rightful owners.
5. Declaration of Greek ( + modifications) as unitary Official language.
6. Closure of BAYRAK.
7. Continuation of existing RoC government without recourse to reservations for inclusion of TCs in its running, bar, any that have been Democratically elected
8. Ceremonial Clean-up (by remaining TCs :lol: ) of Pentadaktylos to eradicate the defacing tyrannical-fascist insignia.
9. Public holiday to celebrate "Liberty and Autarchy Day".
10. Enjoy a bright and fruitful future. 8)


It sounds pretty much like Kemal’s top-down reformation directives upon establishing the Republic of Turkey! It seems we have another one with a Kemaloglu surname in the forums! Should we also start calling the TCs as "mountain Greeks?"


Kifeas . . . I would love to see your proposals. :D

You can do two versions:

. . . . . . one that is politically correct

. . . . . . the second, what is more likely to bring long term peace to Cyprus.

You may find that the second set, would be very close to my proposals . . . :wink:
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Postby oranos64 » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:17 am

zan wrote:FULL 1960 constitution

[b]Compensation to ALL land owners

All land that is not being utilised to go back to the "RoC"
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DREAM ON MATE
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:20 am

phoenix wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Complete withdrawal of Turkish Troops.

Abolition of entire London-Zurich agreements.

Establishment of modern democratic constitution. (one man one vote)

Turkish Cypriots who prostituted GC property arrested and tried.

Foreigners who purchased stolen GC property arrested and tried.

Rauf Denktash abducted and brought to justice in Nicosia by Cypriot agents.

Abolition of all community bodies based on ethnicity.

Ethnic origin relegated to diversity where it belongs.

New RoC anthem replaces existing one.

Five year program for the removal of all Greek and Turkish influences.

Obligatory military service for all Cypriot citizens including women in non-combat roles.

Further strengthened military ties with France.


Excellent presentation: I give you 12 / 12 8)




Self praise is no recommendation :roll:
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:11 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
phoenix wrote:Excellent presentation: I give you 12 / 12 8)

Self praise is no recommendation :roll:

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Phoenix, a lady lives in England and I, a bloke, in Cyprus so please get over it!
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