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[umit07]

Interesting link to old Ottoman documents about Cyprus from Turkish archives. For anyone who can read Turkish.



http://www.devletarsivleri.gov.tr/yayin ... /index.htm


An interesting document records the population of Cyprus in 1831 to be 29,780 non-muslims and 15,385 muslims. Total of 45,365.

And they still say the Ottomans slaughtered them!

[Piratis]

I don't know Turkish but what you posted doesn't look like Ottoman document. I see references to "KKTC" which the pseudo state illegally declared in 1983. Maybe the Ottoman prophets wrote it?

Total of 45,365.

Really? Another TC member posted some other "Ottoman Archives" showing the population of Cyprus at about 200.000

And they still say the Ottomans slaughtered them!

Are you looking in the Ottoman archives to find if the Ottomans slaughtered Cypriots or not?

There is no doubt they did my friend. Here are just a few examples:

Throughout the period of Venetian rule, Ottoman Turks raided and attacked at will. In 1489, the first year of Venetian control, Turks attacked the Karpas Peninsula, pillaging and taking captives to be sold into slavery. In 1539 the Turkish fleet attacked and destroyed Limassol. Fearing the ever-expanding Ottoman Empire, the Venetians had fortified Famagusta, Nicosia, and Kyrenia, but most other cities were easy prey.

In the summer of 1570, the Turks struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion rather than a raid. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on July 2, 1570, and laid siege to Nicosia. In an orgy of victory on the day that the city fell--September 9, 1570--20,000 Nicosians were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.

During the Greek War of Independence in 1821, the Ottoman authorities feared that Greek Cypriots would rebel again. Archbishop Kyprianos, a powerful leader who worked to improve the education of Greek Cypriot children, was accused of plotting against the government. Kyprianos, his bishops, and hundreds of priests and important laymen were arrested and summarily hanged or decapitated on July 9, 1821.

[utu]

The term 'unlaterally declared' would be more politically correct. After all, if the state is illegal, how come it is still there since the 1983 UDI? It brings to mind a quote by some famous personage: 'history is written by the victors'.

[Piratis]

You are confusing the truth with your wishful thinking. The pseudo state is in fact illegal, and the only reason that exists is the 40.000 Turkish troops that illegally occupy 1/3rd of our country.

RESOLUTION 541 (1983)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 18 November 1983



The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create an independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need for a solution of the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continuing support for the United Nations Peace-Keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-General's statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to pursue his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress towards a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to cooperate fully with the Secretary-General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all States not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all States and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.

Adopted at the 2500th meeting by 13 votes to 1 against (Pakistan) with 1 abstention (Jordan).

[miltiades]

I can see now VPs' obsession with UK Pakistanis !!! Didnt they offer to send troops as well in 1974 or was it Bangladesh !!!

[zan]

You are confusing the truth with your wishful thinking. The pseudo state is in fact illegal, and the only reason that exists is the 40.000 Turkish troops that illegally occupy 1/3rd of our country.

RESOLUTION 541 (1983)

Adopted by the Security Council
on 18 November 1983



The Security Council,

Having heard the statement of the Foreign Minister of the Government of the Republic of Cyprus,

Concerned at the declaration by the Turkish Cypriot authorities issued on 15 November 1983 which purports to create an independent state in northern Cyprus,

Considering that this declaration is incompatible with the 1960 Treaty concerning the establishment of the Republic of Cyprus and the 1960 Treaty of Guarantee,

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", is invalid, and will contribute to a worsening of the situation in Cyprus,

Reaffirming its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975),

Aware of the need for a solution of the Cyprus problem, based on the mission of good offices undertaken by the Secretary-General,

Affirming its continuing support for the United Nations Peace-Keeping Force in Cyprus,

Taking note of the Secretary-General's statement of 17 November 1983,

1. Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

3. Calls for the urgent and effective implementation of its resolutions 365(1974) and 367(1975);

4. Requests the Secretary-General to pursue his mission of good offices in order to achieve the earliest possible progress towards a just and lasting settlement in Cyprus;

5. Calls upon the parties to cooperate fully with the Secretary-General in his mission of good offices;

6. Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence, territorial integrity and non-alignment of the Republic of Cyprus;

7. Calls upon all States not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus;

8. Calls upon all States and the two communities in Cyprus to refrain from any action which might exacerbate the situation;

9. Requests the Secretary-General to keep the Security Council fully informed.

Adopted at the 2500th meeting by 13 votes to 1 against (Pakistan) with 1 abstention (Jordan).

All accounted for by the Akritas Plan.....Cause trouble and start killing people so that you can call it "intercommunal conflict" and then ask for outside help. This then entitles you to be thee recognised government of the island by default. The same thing happened in 1963 and in 1974. The author of the Akritas Plan then becomes the president of the "RoC"....He had long term plans. That is why the TRNC/KKTC is still there UTU because the rest of the world knows the dirty tricks played but have no choice but to follow protocol as to the resolution........GC games right from the TOP.......

[Piratis]

The world knows who invaded our island and started the conflict, who killed 1000s and 10s of thousands of Cypriots, who stole our land, who ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands of Cypriots and who is acting illegally.

If you were right and we were wrong then why UN resolutions and ECHR rulings prove the opposite? Is it maybe because Cyprus is a big powerful country with a big army that others were afraid to go against us, or maybe because we have USA as a close ally?

No mate, despite the fact that Turkey is much more powerful and has the superpower as its close ally, still, justice is sooooo much on our side that you did not and you will not manage to legalize your crimes using cheap excuses.

The fact is that the land you call "trnc" is land of Republic of Cyprus, which is the homeland of 5+ times more Greek Cypriots than Turkish Cypriots, which you have illegally ethnically cleansed using lame excuses nobody accepted.

[zan]

:roll: The world knows who invaded our island and started the conflict, who killed 1000s and 10s of thousands of Cypriots, who stole our land, who ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands of Cypriots and who is acting illegally.

If you were right and we were wrong then why UN resolutions and ECHR rulings prove the opposite? Is it maybe because Cyprus is a big powerful country with a big army that others were afraid to go against us, or maybe because we have USA as a close ally?

No mate, despite the fact that Turkey is much more powerful and has the superpower as its close ally, still, justice is sooooo much on our side that you did not and you will not manage to legalize your crimes using cheap excuses.

The fact is that the land you call "trnc" is land of Republic of Cyprus, which is the homeland of 5+ times more Greek Cypriots than Turkish Cypriots, which you have illegally ethnically cleansed using lame excuses nobody accepted.

All accounted for by the Akritas Plan.....Cause trouble and start killing people so that you can call it "intercommunal conflict" and then ask for outside help. This then entitles you to be thee recognised government of the island by default. The same thing happened in 1963 and in 1974. The author of the Akritas Plan then becomes the president of the "RoC"....He had long term plans. That is why the TRNC/KKTC is still there UTU because the rest of the world knows the dirty tricks played but have no choice but to follow protocol as to the resolution........GC games right from the TOP.......

The world and the UN had to act according to what was happening and had no choice...I am glad that they are now seeing fit to put that right. You guys are experts at bending the law but now it is time to pay the piper........You can live in hope and dream of ENOSIS but you will be thwarted once again.....You and you crooked Tpap.....



Cyprus government to set up company for natural gas import



12/11/2007

President Tassos Papadopoulos said that the government will take all necessary steps to help set up a company for the import of natural gas. This, he pointed out, has to be done as quickly as possible.
“We shall set up a company to import natural gas. This move is linked to the possibility of obtaining permission to declare our market an emerging market,” he said.
He explained that a market can be declared “emerging” only if there is an importer or when all the necessary preparations have been made to have somebody to import who will get the licence.
“We have invited the Cyprus Electricity Authority to participate in this company with a 39 percent stake. My understanding is that they have said they are not interested,” he said, adding that the government will go ahead with this decision.
He said he had given instructions to register a company and if the decision to declare the Cyprus market an emerging market is approved, the only importer who will be allowed to operate would be this company.
“If the company is not established,, it is possible that he who has a license – be it temporary of limited – will be the only one to be allowed to import gas,” he explained.
In this case, he added, neither the Electricity Authority nor the government will be included.
“That is why it is urgent to set up a company, make all the preparations for the import of natural gas, which will be on a long-term basis of 25-30 years, something which is not easy to achieve without inter-state agreements,” he pointed out.

[Piratis]

All accounted for by the Akritas Plan..

Only a Turk could use some anonymous document, which didn't even call for murders or anything near that anyways, as an excuse to kill 1000s, ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands, and occupy 1/3rd of a sovereign country.

If you don't even realize how cheap your excuses are then I guess you will need 3 more decades to realize that your pseudo state will never be recognized and your crimes will never be legalized. Unfortunately for you I doubt you will have that much time to realize it. Cyprus will be liberated much earlier.

[zan]

All accounted for by the Akritas Plan..

Only a Turk could use some anonymous document, which didn't even call for murders or anything near that anyways, as an excuse to kill 1000s, ethnically cleanse 100s of thousands, and occupy 1/3rd of a sovereign country.

If you don't even realize how cheap your excuses are then I guess you will need 3 more decades to realize that your pseudo state will never be recognized and your crimes will never be legalized. Unfortunately for you I doubt you will have that much time to realize it. Cyprus will be liberated much earlier.

No it will not Piratis because we have no intentions of liberating the rest of the island for Cypriots. You can live in your illegal state that was got by default on the Akritas Plan.....I don't think that Tpap will like you calling his well thought out plan as anonymous...He would like full credit for it I should imagine

You just carry on ignoring the TURKISH CYPRIOT people and dream on as much as you like but we are here for good mate. You can ask us to go back to the Zurich agreement if you like and dissolve your illegal government according to that agreement but that is about all you are going to get. There is always the Annan Plan but that would mean that you would have to get rid of Tpap and put someone in that is man enough to make it work instead of sabotaging the whole thing once again. Someone that will do his elected job and be there for its people in the early stages...No more tricks.