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[Cliff]

I think about the problem and my mind runs towards america..the statement that evey country has a right to defend itself, yet it was america, specifically the cia who instructed turkey to attack, or in their words we will not stop you!
It now seems that they no longer need the security of an army base as they have one in iraq, so the dog's brain has grown to big for it's skull, and turkey has stopped buying weapons from america? could this be true?
Is there no way that the illegal occupation, as internationally stated be bought to justice except through war?

something simple...cypriots in cyprus, christians and muslims, not gypsys bought to settle there And turks in turkey. No more propaganda ( mainly america led ) and the olive branch of the flag to mean something.

[observer]

So, America, or more specifically the CIA, instructed Turkey to attack Cyprus. There was I thinking that it was because thousands of Greek soldiers had invaded Cyprus (Makarios' words at the UN not mine) and attempted to make it part of Greece assisted by a bunch of Cypriot coupists.

I didn't realise that the US had any army bases in Turkey. It would come as a surprise to the US Army too. In fact, as of last month they didn't even have an army attache at their embassy in Ankara. They do have some airforce bases though. But I don't think that air bases in Iraq are substitutes that the US have under consideration.

Has Turkey made a decision not to buy US arms? News to me, although they may have chosen to buy from somewhere else on a specific order. If you can expand upon this section it might help.

Can the current Cyprus situation end without war? Of course it can. I see that you have included an RoC flag in your message. If this means that you can vote in the 08 presidential election, I suggest that you vote for a candidate who really accepts that a bizonal, bicommunal federation, as agreed between TC and GC leaders 33 years ago, is the way forward. Up until now we have only seen GC leaders making promises to their electorate that are never going to be fulfilled, initially because Turkey wouldn't let them, but now because the EU and the UN won't let them.

[humanist]

Yep the Greek speaking Cypriot's leadership to blame, of course. The fact that Talat gives mixed messages, advocates for partition is attached to Turkey's leg and supports fascists who walk around in banners stating that Cyprus is Turkish has nothing to do with it.

Yes Turkey made a statement that they will not buy arms from America after the US recognised and accepted the Armenian genocide.

Cliff said the Americans have bases in Iraq NOT Turkey.

[phoenix]

I think about the problem and my mind runs towards america..the statement that evey country has a right to defend itself, yet it was america, specifically the cia who instructed turkey to attack, or in their words we will not stop you!
It now seems that they no longer need the security of an army base as they have one in iraq, so the dog's brain has grown to big for it's skull, and turkey has stopped buying weapons from america? could this be true?
Is there no way that the illegal occupation, as internationally stated be bought to justice except through war?

something simple...cypriots in cyprus, christians and muslims, not gypsys bought to settle there And turks in turkey. No more propaganda ( mainly america led ) and the olive branch of the flag to mean something.

The decision to move towards a civilised, humanitarian, just and right solution, rests in the hands of the thieves, the Turks who hold onto illegally acquired land with over 40,000 Turkish soldiers.

If Turkey wants to be accepted as a normal, civilised country . . . it would be a BIG step in the right direction if she stopped invading her neighbours.

[observer]

In the case of Cyprus, it was Greece who invaded her neighbour first. I am supported in this view by Makarios. Turkey then intervened.

The Turkish Army is still here because Cypriot politicians can't agree. First both sides, but now mostly the GC politicians.

Talat came to power on a wave of popular support for a BBF. If he is now starting to get pissed off, who can blame him when he looks across the negotiating table at Papadopoulos on the rare occasions when Papadopoulos feels that there is an electoral vote or two to be won.

[Nikitas]

Observer,

It was Talat who backtracked from the July 8 accords. Turkey (Gul-Erdogan) now talk about separate religions, nationalities etc.

If Turkey interevened to oust the "invading" Greeks where is the restoration of the constitutional order they were supposed to protect?

Let's cut out the propaganda bullshit and see the facts. Turkey invaded and split Cyprus into two. It imposed Taksim and Enosis of the northern part.

[eracles]

In the case of Cyprus, it was Greece who invaded her neighbour first. I am supported in this view by Makarios. Turkey then intervened.

The Turkish Army is still here because Cypriot politicians can't agree. First both sides, but now mostly the GC politicians.

Talat came to power on a wave of popular support for a BBF. If he is now starting to get pissed off, who can blame him when he looks across the negotiating table at Papadopoulos on the rare occasions when Papadopoulos feels that there is an electoral vote or two to be won.

Talat, no doubt at the behest of Turkey, is now paradoxically asking for a unified cyprus which would be come unified by the Greek Cypriots accepting and recognising the north as a separate state. His haggling skills are admirable. He is starting to sound like Denktash.

[Get Real!]

The Turkish Army is still here because Cypriot politicians can't agree.

Quit posting rubbish. The Turkish military is here because UN resolutions haven't been enforced due to the lack of interest by the international community and Turkey is simply taking advantage of that.

[humanist]

dito, Get Real

[Cliff]

there will be no peace with a united states of cyprus, the only peace will be cypriots in cyprus and turks in turkey