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Postby cannedmoose » Tue Mar 22, 2005 11:43 am

boulio wrote:no such thing as ministry of education in the trnc,so the ROC runs the school.


Ministry of National Education and Culture - Tel (392) 2283136; Fax (392) 2282334

There's the contact details for you boulio, maybe you should give them a call and confirm their non-existence... or maybe in future we should call it the pseudo Ministry of pseudo National Education and pseudo Culture... then you'd be happy... :roll:
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Postby brother » Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:37 pm

Bulio seems to like spitting out hate and b**lshit at every given opportunity but then he is not a cypriot but a turk hating mainland greek.
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Postby cannedmoose » Tue Mar 22, 2005 3:18 pm

brother wrote:Bulio seems to like spitting out hate and b**lshit at every given opportunity but then he is not a cypriot but a turk hating mainland greek.


ImagePut those claws away bro' :lol:
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Postby boulio » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:20 pm

Bulio seems to like spitting out hate and b**lshit at every given opportunity but then he is not a cypriot but a turk hating mainland greek.

relax brother.

moose concerning the school ministry im also sure there are telephones for the ercan airport but guess what thats not recognized either so for the me at least it dosent exist.t/c pipe dreams.
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Postby erolz » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:38 pm

boulio wrote:moose concerning the school ministry im also sure there are telephones for the ercan airport but guess what thats not recognized either so for the me at least it dosent exist.t/c pipe dreams.


Deciding that you do not recognise the existance of these things is one thing and your perogative. However what you did above was 'justify' the RoC making an agreement with these 'non existant' entities and then renaging on this agreement after having made it - and your apparent 'justification' for why this was not an issue was the TRNC entity does not exist. That is just BS defending of the RoC actions - simply because they are GC as far as I can see. You create an impression that you think the RoC can do no wrong because they 'exist' and the TRNC can do no right beacuse they do not. That any betrayal of trust by the RoC against the TRNC is 'acceptable'. Such an impression only reinforces the view that you care nothing for 'fairness' - only for GC getting one over TC.
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Postby boulio » Tue Mar 22, 2005 4:58 pm

were these agreemnets that you talk about erolz between education ministries or between the ROC and the t/c community reoresentive in other words dektash or talat.
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Postby garbitsch » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:10 pm

The Ministry of Education of TRNC is not recognised, but the graduates of Turkish Cypriot highschools which are registered at this "pseudo" ministry can study anywhere in the world. The diplomas issued by this ministry and TRNC are also valid. The 5 universities of TRNC attrack thousands of forenign studens. OK, I am confused now! :roll:
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Postby erolz » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:42 pm

boulio wrote:were these agreemnets that you talk about erolz between education ministries or between the ROC and the t/c community reoresentive in other words dektash or talat.


Does it matter?

As I understand it. Agreements were made. The TC side honoured the agreements. The GC is renaging on these agreemnts. Your comment was (to paraphrase) - so what the TRNC does not exist.

That's how I see the discussion so far. Have I got it wrong?
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Tue Mar 22, 2005 5:44 pm

garbitsch wrote:The Ministry of Education of TRNC is not recognised, but the graduates of Turkish Cypriot highschools which are registered at this "pseudo" ministry can study anywhere in the world. The diplomas issued by this ministry and TRNC are also valid. The 5 universities of TRNC attrack thousands of forenign studens. OK, I am confused now! :roll:

It doesn't really have much to do with the topic, but it's just an interesting observation I made. When I came to England in September to study, when I enrolled at the Uni, they asked for my RoC passport (because as EU students we pay substantially less tuition - something like less than half, that's several thousands of pounds...). So, I gave it to them, they xeroxed it, and I thought that was it. Then, they sent me my enrolment form at home, saying I was an International student. That would've been fine by me, only International students pay full tuition. So I go back to them, saying 'Guys, Cyprus is in the EU, so work your magic and fix it'. They wanted my passport again. I take it back to them, they say it's fixed, only they wanted to see it again about a week later... I'm guessing this 'recognition' thing is an issue when it suits the Brits, huh? I bet they would hardly have taken a second look at my passport (much less a third one), had there not been the possibility of them getting paid full tuition (if I were a TC without an RoC passport)...
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Postby boulio » Tue Mar 22, 2005 6:11 pm

erolz the t/c teachers that were not accepted from the original kibris article were they teachers with t/c credentials or not,if the roc does not recognize them thats one thing however if the teachers had turkey educational papers from a turkish university and are accredited and are recognized by the ROC and were not excepted that the ROC is at fault.the point is that everytime we try to compromise on something the t/c officials try to play the recognition game.im i wrong?and at the end of the day the nothing gets settled.
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