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[phoenix]

When we stop toying with the possibility of Turkey entering the EU and accept that she never will be an EU member . . . . then the EU can treat Turkey as the enemy and make real efforts to remove her from EU soil.

[MR-from-NG]

AS we speak (fight,regurgitate,throw tantrums,dream on etc) Turkey is pressing Talat to make another 50,000 settlers trnc citizens. Soon they will abandon any pretence that The North is run by and for the TCs...

With Islamisation of Turkey in full swing,it looks as if she will never become a member of the EU...So what solution can we expect in Cyprus when Turkey's EU dream officially ends,and when the voice of the TCs are totally silenced??? And how comfortable will the people of the ROC be with 500,000 settlers in the North? That is just to begin with...Rome is burning ,my friends...

Cant argue with the above BK, a very good point. I guess TCs have to choose. Those that wanna be dominated, intimidated, spat at and treated like shit can cross over to the South. I have made my choice and built my retirement home in Kyrenia.

[boomerang]

The Turkish Cypriots will not agree to any plan that does not contain guarantee rights of Turkey. This is one of their red lines. I also would prefer, just like anyone else, to have a country that is not dependent on guarantee rights of the motherlands but I cannot see this happening and this is a compromise I am willing to accept in order to reach a solution.

The Cyprus issue belongs to the UN and the EU has no jurisdiction over it. Sometimes we behave as though we are the only people that matter and when we say Cyprus we think that only Greek speaking Cypriots exist. In fact this is exactly what got us into this mess in the first time. Even if the EU takes over and works out a solution, it will still be a compromise plan and then we would perhaps dump them and look for another organisation to adopt us. In a nutshell, the "other" side has claims too and it also deserves the attention of international institutions. The question is will we accept to compromise and share this country with our politically equal Turkish Cypriot community?

Bananiot I hear you but the way I see it is that the GCS want unity and the tcs want to legalize unity with turkey...how the hell is this gonna work?
We have made the sacrifice for a federation, what sacrifice are the tcs making?...this is the question

hello just in case you missed the referendum it was you Gcs that rejected a federation solution, no one blieves you guys anymore when you claim you want a federation.

Ah yeah noone believes us anymore and this is why you are still craving partition...

Our strength has been enriched...we have EU rules and laws now incase you didn't know...and this is what scares the living daylights out of you and your turka momma

Let's see how far turka momma will get in the EU if you gain recognition...You think your momma turka is gonna allow this in any way?


PS...somebody please help me out here...has Bananiot changed his name to the forum shithead or what?...

[boomerang]

AS we speak (fight,regurgitate,throw tantrums,dream on etc) Turkey is pressing Talat to make another 50,000 settlers trnc citizens. Soon they will abandon any pretence that The North is run by and for the TCs...

With Islamisation of Turkey in full swing,it looks as if she will never become a member of the EU...So what solution can we expect in Cyprus when Turkey's EU dream officially ends,and when the voice of the TCs are totally silenced??? And how comfortable will the people of the ROC be with 500,000 settlers in the North? That is just to begin with...Rome is burning ,my friends...

Cant argue with the above BK, a very good point. I guess TCs have to choose. Those that wanna be dominated, intimidated, spat at and treated like shit can cross over to the South. I have made my choice and built my retirement home in Kyrenia.

Sound analysis here Mr-from-NG...so when are the rest of the wives joining you in Kyrenia

[MR-from-NG]

The Turkish Cypriots will not agree to any plan that does not contain guarantee rights of Turkey. This is one of their red lines. I also would prefer, just like anyone else, to have a country that is not dependent on guarantee rights of the motherlands but I cannot see this happening and this is a compromise I am willing to accept in order to reach a solution.

The Cyprus issue belongs to the UN and the EU has no jurisdiction over it. Sometimes we behave as though we are the only people that matter and when we say Cyprus we think that only Greek speaking Cypriots exist. In fact this is exactly what got us into this mess in the first time. Even if the EU takes over and works out a solution, it will still be a compromise plan and then we would perhaps dump them and look for another organisation to adopt us. In a nutshell, the "other" side has claims too and it also deserves the attention of international institutions. The question is will we accept to compromise and share this country with our politically equal Turkish Cypriot community?

Bananiot I hear you but the way I see it is that the GCS want unity and the tcs want to legalize unity with turkey...how the hell is this gonna work?
We have made the sacrifice for a federation, what sacrifice are the tcs making?...this is the question

hello just in case you missed the referendum it was you Gcs that rejected a federation solution, no one blieves you guys anymore when you claim you want a federation.

Ah yeah noone believes us anymore and this is why you are still craving partition...

Our strength has been enriched...we have EU rules and laws now incase you didn't know...and this is what scares the living daylights out of you and your turka momma

Let's see how far turka momma will get in the EU if you gain recognition...You think your momma turka is gonna allow this in any way?


PS...somebody please help me out here...has Bananiot changed his name to the forum shithead or what?...

Bananiot deserves the respect and admiration of all forum members. He does not live in denial nor has his head deep in sand.

Well done Bananiot.

[boomerang]

I agree that is why I asked the question...obviously you didn't follow the conversation properly...now go and stand in the corner

But in anycase we both agree that Bananiot ain't no shithead...you used a one guess already...2 left...use them wisely

[utu]

When we stop toying with the possibility of Turkey entering the EU and accept that she never will be an EU member . . . . then the EU can treat Turkey as the enemy and make real efforts to remove her from EU soil.

No grey area in regards to Turkey with you, is there?

[Kifeas]

The Turkish Cypriots will not agree to any plan that does not contain guarantee rights of Turkey. This is one of their red lines. I also would prefer, just like anyone else, to have a country that is not dependent on guarantee rights of the motherlands but I cannot see this happening ....

And the GCs will not agree to any "plan" that will contain unilateral intervention rights to any foreign or any so-called motherland" country, and this is one of our red lines too!

...and this is a compromise I am willing to accept in order to reach a solution.

Well, this is a "compromise" the vast majority of the GCs are not going to accept, for very good practical reasons, and as a matter of principle too!

The Cyprus issue belongs to the UN and the EU has no jurisdiction over it.

Fine, let's solve it under the UN umbrella!
What are the UN's two most important documents? It is the UN Charter, and then, it is the Universal declaration of Human Rights! Let's solve it with the above two documents into perspective, since "the Cyprus issue belongs to the UN!"

http://www.un.org/aboutun/charter/
http://www.un.org/Overview/rights.html

Furthermore, let's take into consideration all the UN resolutions on Cyprus!

It is fine with me!

Bananiot, are you sure you have red the above documents, and even more important, have you been able to comprehend them? Somehow I doubt, for you wouldn’t have been such an unprincipled person if you had, and still use the UN framework as an argument!

Furthermore, let’s examine the failed Annan plan with all the above mentioned documents as a test basis! It will miserably fail under any and all circumstances!

[Viewpoint]

Bananiot is the most intelligent and open minded GC I have ever had the fortune to read. His balanced views encourage me about a united Cyprus and allowing the majority to rule but then come the rest of you which are the actual majority and send me back into the lap of Turkey and the desire to be protected from a mindset that not even the EU can effectively change. Your despot and twisted versions of where TCs would fit in a united Cyprus only perpetuate a desire to unify with Turkey rather than the south, when will you people realize this and start to change your entrenched and unproductive attitudes?

[cymart]

Several key countries such as France and Austria are dead against Turkey ever joining the E.U. as full members,as are the population of other member states as well so the best they will probably settle for is a kind of special association agreement.This would suit the Turkish establishment too because they get the benefits without having the obbligations on Cyprus and other matters!
Of course I hope 'Oranos' is right and that there will be a solution here next year,but I cannot see how the military in Ankara will agree to change anything here unless they get something else in return!This is how the minds of these people work all over the world-never give ground unless you are gaining it somewhere else!!

Bananiot is also one of the most sensible people on this forum and I think many of us realise it!I believe there are many other people like him on both sides of Cyprus such as Yiangos Mikellides(read his article about Themistocleous in last Sundays Politis)and other unknown but well-meaning people.