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Postby purdey » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:10 pm

There is a misconception here.I aggree the British wanted Cyprus under their control,but a percentage of Cypriots also wanted the British in Cyprus.It was never a blanket Brits out demonstation,if that were the case you would of kicked us out alot earlier.I don't remember the so called Turkish Cypriot community in Limassol,I just remember my neighbours who were regarded as Cypriots.
I do remember my father been shot at not hitting his body but going through his shirt,not because he was British but because he was in the old market and all were fair game,British,Cypriot,Turkish Cypriot.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:25 pm

purdey, a percentage of Cypriots, a percentage of British, a percentage of whatever, will always want somehting different. There was a percentage of Vietnamese that liked their French colonialists and supported the US invasion of their country. Are you going to tell me that Vietnam should have remained a French colony?

The fact is that the British fueled Turkish nationalism among this percentage because this is what served their interests.

Don't misunderstand me. I am not anti-British. But I am anti-colonialist and anti-foreign control of my island.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:42 pm

I was in the escond year of primary school when our area in central Nicosia was attacked by a Turkish Cypriot mob. We were under curfew imposed by the British. Locked in our houses we watched as TC young men rampaged through the area. It was a repeated event. We lived through more attacks in that year and the next.

As a means of defence a civil guard was set up. This involved people sitting on rooftops at night "armed" with whistles. If there was any move from the Turkish Cypriot area the first people to notice it would whistle and the signal trasmitted by others. Since we could not get out of our houses, the curfew being strictly enforced by armed British and TC police, we devised all kinds of defences. One neighbor connected his metal main door to the electricity mains. Others stockpiled bottles and bricks on their rooftops.

The most shockng realization during those attacks was that people we did not know, whom we had never harmed were coming to kill us. Then I saw a badly hacked up man who survived the Omorfita attacks and still see the huge scabs on his arms to this day. From that time on I swore that I would never be without a weapon of some kind.

These guys did not just go after GCs. In our street they shot and wounded a TC, I think he was a trade unionist or journalist. He ran into a house, blood pouring from his chest while the gunman ran towards the Turkish area past Ermou street. The British came, blocked off the street, and though the victim told them what happened the soldiers arrested every adult GC male in sight.

It was a time when the TCs of the TMT obviously enjoyed an immunity provided by the British. They had the upper hand and behaved like assholes. We returned the favor in 1963 when we had the upper hand and proved we too could be assholes. Now we have a stalemate and we are polite to each other. At some point we have to let go and realise that there is a better way. Till then.....
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Postby purdey » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:47 pm

Piratis,my wife feels the same about her island of Cyprus and I tend to agree.The bad old days have gone,ok you still have the bases but I think they will always be there.The Uk government has very minimal involvement in Cyprus and what is there is welcomed by your Government.
Now you are part of the family we are all regarded as custodians of Cyprus,it's just Brussels has a bigger say in running Cyprus.
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Postby purdey » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:53 pm

I also was in the second year at Primary school when I saw people been dragged from their homes in Limassol,I stood with my father who shouted at the British soldiers who were laughing at the Turkish Cypriots been loaded onto a trailer.That was one of many horrible things I saw.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:56 pm

purdey, the involvement of UK in Cyprus is still a lot, not just because of the bases, but also because your government is apparently best friends with Turkey and they are helping them to continue with their illegalities in Cyprus since the division suits them both.
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Postby purdey » Tue Jan 22, 2008 3:01 pm

Yes they have a certain likeing for the Turkish goverment,which does cause alot of uneasyness with the British public.I think though it is more in fear of being in the bad books of the USA.
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Re: Where you there...I was.

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 24, 2008 9:49 am

Kikapu wrote:
purdey wrote:How many posters were around when it became nasty in Cyprus.Not the 74 invasion but the ten years proceeding.Or is your knowledge based on books,the media or hearsay ?

Or do you make it up as you go along ?


Purdey,

May I suggest you tell us everything that you have experienced during those times from '63 to '74, so that we can all get the feel of what you went through, rather than just telling us that you know all the nasty things that happened during those times. Some of us have written our experiences, so please, do the same. You do not need to write it all in one go. Just start in 1963 and finish in 1974 and take however much time you need to write it. Give it to us one page at a time if you like...thanks.

Happy writings.


Purdey,

We are still waiting to read your accounts in Cyprus between 1963-1974.!!

You are not having a "writers fright" by any chance.???
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Re: Where you there...I was.

Postby halil » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:19 am

Kikapu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
purdey wrote:How many posters were around when it became nasty in Cyprus.Not the 74 invasion but the ten years proceeding.Or is your knowledge based on books,the media or hearsay ?

Or do you make it up as you go along ?


Purdey,

May I suggest you tell us everything that you have experienced during those times from '63 to '74, so that we can all get the feel of what you went through, rather than just telling us that you know all the nasty things that happened during those times. Some of us have written our experiences, so please, do the same. You do not need to write it all in one go. Just start in 1963 and finish in 1974 and take however much time you need to write it. Give it to us one page at a time if you like...thanks.

Happy writings.


Purdey,

We are still waiting to read your accounts in Cyprus between 1963-1974.!!

You are not having a "writers fright" by any chance.???



KİKAPU ,
What you wanna get by questioning the people. Talk about recent incidences that public is engage.

What do you think about Tennis player mate. ?

What do you think KARAMANLİS visit to Turkey and the way Greek
Fanatics actions against his visit ?
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Re: Where you there...I was.

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:57 am

halil wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
purdey wrote:How many posters were around when it became nasty in Cyprus.Not the 74 invasion but the ten years proceeding.Or is your knowledge based on books,the media or hearsay ?

Or do you make it up as you go along ?


Purdey,

May I suggest you tell us everything that you have experienced during those times from '63 to '74, so that we can all get the feel of what you went through, rather than just telling us that you know all the nasty things that happened during those times. Some of us have written our experiences, so please, do the same. You do not need to write it all in one go. Just start in 1963 and finish in 1974 and take however much time you need to write it. Give it to us one page at a time if you like...thanks.

Happy writings.


Purdey,

We are still waiting to read your accounts in Cyprus between 1963-1974.!!

You are not having a "writers fright" by any chance.???



KİKAPU ,
What you wanna get by questioning the people. Talk about recent incidences that public is engage.

What do you think about Tennis player mate. ?

What do you think KARAMANLİS visit to Turkey and the way Greek
Fanatics actions against his visit ?


Good morning Halil,

I'm not questioning anyone Halil. Purdey made the claim he knows first hand what happened between 1963-1974 because he was in Cyprus and knows all the nasty things that went on, so I would like to read his account of events, that's all.

Don't you want to read Purdey's report Halil.??

The tennis player ( Marcos) has the right to say what ever he wants, as an individual, specially in a "private gathering". His statement represents himself and not anyone else's, although just by saying "Turks out of Cyprus" is no different than all the UN resolutions against Turkey. If TC's claim to be Turks and no longer TC's, then I can see why some TC's may have gotten upset. Since you raised the question Halil, do you consider yourself a Turk or a TC.?? I'm not upset by what Marcos said, because I consider myself a Cypriot as well as Turkish Cypriot, but not a TURK. If he said "Turkish Cypriots out of Cyprus", then I too would have kicked his butt.

Last time I looked, Freedom of Speech is still practiced in most part of the civilized world, so what's all the excitement about.??

It's about time the "Guarantor Powers" met. I like the idea of Karamanlis going to Turkey, as long as they are not brewing any ideas on how to screw the Cypriots again.!! I guess since Brown is not there, they can't do too much damage on their own!!

As for the Fanatics Halil, well, you know how I feel about Fanatics. I have to deal with them all the time here on the forum. :wink:

In a word, I'll say, screw the fanatics. They are always the losers in the history of mankind. They do their worse and then get their butts kicked by True Democracy.

Have a nice day Halil.
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