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[boomerang]

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

You said in the past turkey asked for a return to the constitution and the gcs refused...I asked you for proof and none came...and here we are...

Well it confirmed that turkey was after ground and nothing more...

Amazing how you pick and chose what you want to believe as being the whole truth Just because there is no mention here does not make it so...This is a Greek site don't forget.... EVEN IF they didn't.....The situation was such that the constitution was negated by Makarios long before so the claims should have been accepted but instead counter claims were made so what does that tell you. What were the Greeks after.

Are we suppose now not believe what you posted?

Fuck man make up your own mind...You present a document and I asked the question...When did "turkey" asked for the return of the constitution...So far you are confirming to me she didn't...

You even thanked T_C for saying something about cantons...was that a return to the original constitution?

[boomerang]

When Zan loses the arguments he starts to copy paste Turkish propaganda from ATA ATUN

Its from the golden bible...

[Marz]

Zan, im curious to know where you found all that info you posted?

Anyway havent you already posted this sort of stuff in other posts and ramblings, your like a broken record, sometimes it skips and plays a different song.

Anyway why are you here arguing with Cypriots, why dont you make your own forum for Turkish Cypriots where you can post page after page of Turkish textbook crap that find on the interent then post it here like its gospel, then you cry when epople disagree with you.

Ever considered its your arraogance and tendency to assume everything you find thats pro turkish is always correct.


Ancient remains of a Turk, only been released recently to the public.





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[zan]

When Zan loses the arguments he starts to copy paste Turkish propaganda from ATA ATUN

And when Piratis loses an argument he reverts back to what the Ottomans did a thousands years ago......Wait!......Thats all the time........I do like it when you just attack the man............You posted on this thread about a minute after you posted on another...Man you are a quick reader...Didn't notice that not all of it was from Ata bey though did you..... Don't want to read it.......Never mind....Eduction isn't for everyone.....

[zan]

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

You said in the past turkey asked for a return to the constitution and the gcs refused...I asked you for proof and none came...and here we are...

Well it confirmed that turkey was after ground and nothing more...

Amazing how you pick and chose what you want to believe as being the whole truth Just because there is no mention here does not make it so...This is a Greek site don't forget.... EVEN IF they didn't.....The situation was such that the constitution was negated by Makarios long before so the claims should have been accepted but instead counter claims were made so what does that tell you. What were the Greeks after.

Are we suppose now not believe what you posted?

Fuck man make up your own mind...You present a document and I asked the question...When did "turkey" asked for the return of the constitution...So far you are confirming to me she didn't...

You even thanked T_C for saying something about cantons...was that a return to the original constitution?

Boomers...I am trying to accomodate you in every way that I can...Seeing how you just want to believe the propaganda crap that you have been taught and are so resistant to the truth then I will give you examples of what might have happened so you can take he truth in small doses.........You can say thank you when ever you are ready

[zan]

Zan, im curious to know where you found all that info you posted?

Anyway havent you already posted this sort of stuff in other posts and ramblings, your like a broken record, sometimes it skips and plays a different song.

Anyway why are you here arguing with Cypriots, why dont you make your own forum for Turkish Cypriots where you can post page after page of Turkish textbook crap that find on the interent then post it here like its gospel, then you cry when epople disagree with you.

Ever considered its your arraogance and tendency to assume everything you find thats pro turkish is always correct.


Ancient remains of a Turk, only been released recently to the public.





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It is not the fact hat I think everything I find is true but the fact that everything that tells the truth, you are resistant to just like Boomers so you can take it in little steps at a time as well.Your arrogance in hitting me and not he subject shows that very clearly but I am no fool to have expected any difference....Who do you think I am ....Birkibrisli....He keeps coming back and asking for GC support to find the truth and you guys keep kicking him in the teeth and the guy says thank you and kisses your butts......Man oh man!!!! with the elections hotting up he better stay permanently puckered up...

Oh! And.......You tasted lovely when I ate you but you were a hard shit to get out and as your picture shows......I never did manage send you down the sewer where you belong..........Eh! Little Ed.........

[boomerang]

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

You said in the past turkey asked for a return to the constitution and the gcs refused...I asked you for proof and none came...and here we are...

Well it confirmed that turkey was after ground and nothing more...

Amazing how you pick and chose what you want to believe as being the whole truth Just because there is no mention here does not make it so...This is a Greek site don't forget.... EVEN IF they didn't.....The situation was such that the constitution was negated by Makarios long before so the claims should have been accepted but instead counter claims were made so what does that tell you. What were the Greeks after.

Are we suppose now not believe what you posted?

Fuck man make up your own mind...You present a document and I asked the question...When did "turkey" asked for the return of the constitution...So far you are confirming to me she didn't...

You even thanked T_C for saying something about cantons...was that a return to the original constitution?

Boomers...I am trying to accomodate you in every way that I can...Seeing how you just want to believe the propaganda crap that you have been taught and are so resistant to the truth then I will give you examples of what might have happened so you can take he truth in small doses.........You can say thank you when ever you are ready

Let me get this right Zan...how on earth is aking you a question be considered propaganda

You post an article, I ask a question out of your article, then you blame me for asking a question?...strooth...

How about for once answer the question that has been asked from you several times...

when did "turkey" asked for a return to the constitution

come on spit it out man...its a straight forward question...either you know or you don't...can't get simpler than that...

PS...asking a question Zan is not considered propaganda...but not answering a question out of your article is...get it right man...

[zan]

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

You said in the past turkey asked for a return to the constitution and the gcs refused...I asked you for proof and none came...and here we are...

Well it confirmed that turkey was after ground and nothing more...

Amazing how you pick and chose what you want to believe as being the whole truth Just because there is no mention here does not make it so...This is a Greek site don't forget.... EVEN IF they didn't.....The situation was such that the constitution was negated by Makarios long before so the claims should have been accepted but instead counter claims were made so what does that tell you. What were the Greeks after.

Are we suppose now not believe what you posted?

Fuck man make up your own mind...You present a document and I asked the question...When did "turkey" asked for the return of the constitution...So far you are confirming to me she didn't...

You even thanked T_C for saying something about cantons...was that a return to the original constitution?

Boomers...I am trying to accomodate you in every way that I can...Seeing how you just want to believe the propaganda crap that you have been taught and are so resistant to the truth then I will give you examples of what might have happened so you can take he truth in small doses.........You can say thank you when ever you are ready

Let me get this right Zan...how on earth is aking you a question be considered propaganda

You post an article, I ask a question out of your article, then you blame me for asking a question?...strooth...

How about for once answer the question that has been asked from you several times...

when did "turkey" asked for a return to the constitution

come on spit it out man...its a straight forward question...either you know or you don't...can't get simpler than that...

PS...asking a question Zan is not considered propaganda...but not answering a question out of your article is...get it right man...

I told you several times Boomers...What the hell are you on.....When the first cease fire came...Is that the answer you want....Oh! you want proof..... Tell me what source you will accept my proof from so I can be sure that you will not turn me away.........Makarios did not want the Zurich agreement returned to in it's entirety, even after what had happened so the negotiations started straight away as to what is acceptable and that has been going on since then...What more [roof do you want than history it self


I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

[boomerang]

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

You said in the past turkey asked for a return to the constitution and the gcs refused...I asked you for proof and none came...and here we are...

Well it confirmed that turkey was after ground and nothing more...

Amazing how you pick and chose what you want to believe as being the whole truth Just because there is no mention here does not make it so...This is a Greek site don't forget.... EVEN IF they didn't.....The situation was such that the constitution was negated by Makarios long before so the claims should have been accepted but instead counter claims were made so what does that tell you. What were the Greeks after.

Are we suppose now not believe what you posted?

Fuck man make up your own mind...You present a document and I asked the question...When did "turkey" asked for the return of the constitution...So far you are confirming to me she didn't...

You even thanked T_C for saying something about cantons...was that a return to the original constitution?

Boomers...I am trying to accomodate you in every way that I can...Seeing how you just want to believe the propaganda crap that you have been taught and are so resistant to the truth then I will give you examples of what might have happened so you can take he truth in small doses.........You can say thank you when ever you are ready

Let me get this right Zan...how on earth is aking you a question be considered propaganda

You post an article, I ask a question out of your article, then you blame me for asking a question?...strooth...

How about for once answer the question that has been asked from you several times...

when did "turkey" asked for a return to the constitution

come on spit it out man...its a straight forward question...either you know or you don't...can't get simpler than that...

PS...asking a question Zan is not considered propaganda...but not answering a question out of your article is...get it right man...

I told you several times Boomers...What the hell are you on.....When the first cease fire came...Is that the answer you want....Oh! you want proof..... Tell me what source you will accept my proof from so I can be sure that you will not turn me away.........Makarios did not want the Zurich agreement returned to in it's entirety, even after what had happened so the negotiations started straight away as to what is acceptable and that has been going on since then...What more [roof do you want than history it self


I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you dreaming or what...What source?...you never quoted any source...The last time you said you were gonna dig it out and you never did...all we have is your word, and I am afraid, no offence, ain't good enough...

Just one source...will do...

what we have so far is an extract from the article you posted which contradicts what you're saying now...here it is again...your source, your post...

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960.. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

and further more

I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you calling Ethnic cleansing propaganda now?...They were the guarantor power...they had no right to ethnic cleansing...

Mate you are not on the sauce by any chance?

[zan]

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

You said in the past turkey asked for a return to the constitution and the gcs refused...I asked you for proof and none came...and here we are...

Well it confirmed that turkey was after ground and nothing more...

Amazing how you pick and chose what you want to believe as being the whole truth Just because there is no mention here does not make it so...This is a Greek site don't forget.... EVEN IF they didn't.....The situation was such that the constitution was negated by Makarios long before so the claims should have been accepted but instead counter claims were made so what does that tell you. What were the Greeks after.

Are we suppose now not believe what you posted?

Fuck man make up your own mind...You present a document and I asked the question...When did "turkey" asked for the return of the constitution...So far you are confirming to me she didn't...

You even thanked T_C for saying something about cantons...was that a return to the original constitution?

Boomers...I am trying to accomodate you in every way that I can...Seeing how you just want to believe the propaganda crap that you have been taught and are so resistant to the truth then I will give you examples of what might have happened so you can take he truth in small doses.........You can say thank you when ever you are ready

Let me get this right Zan...how on earth is aking you a question be considered propaganda

You post an article, I ask a question out of your article, then you blame me for asking a question?...strooth...

How about for once answer the question that has been asked from you several times...

when did "turkey" asked for a return to the constitution

come on spit it out man...its a straight forward question...either you know or you don't...can't get simpler than that...

PS...asking a question Zan is not considered propaganda...but not answering a question out of your article is...get it right man...

I told you several times Boomers...What the hell are you on.....When the first cease fire came...Is that the answer you want....Oh! you want proof..... Tell me what source you will accept my proof from so I can be sure that you will not turn me away.........Makarios did not want the Zurich agreement returned to in it's entirety, even after what had happened so the negotiations started straight away as to what is acceptable and that has been going on since then...What more [roof do you want than history it self


I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you dreaming or what...What source?...you never quoted any source...The last time you said you were gonna dig it out and you never did...all we have is your word, and I am afraid, no offence, ain't good enough...

Just one source...will do...

what we have so far is an extract from the article you posted which contradicts what you're saying now...here it is again...your source, your post...

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960.. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

and further more

I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you calling Ethnic cleansing propaganda now?...They were the guarantor power...they had no right to ethnic cleansing...

Mate you are not on the sauce by any chance?

You then go and scream and shout and shit your pants when eric_dayi comes on and tells you that the GCs tried to genocide the TCs in 1963 to 74

I am still trying to find a source for your quote that you will not jump down my throat on and have a go at the source rather than the content as you usually do. I am afraid that I have not found one hat will shut you up so I am willing to take the stick for saying it ....So far....Don't worry though....I am still looking.

You are still refusing o look at he evidence of the facts of history though.....Turkey acted as a guarantor power and with that the restoring of the constitution was paramount, if there was one to restore. There turns out here wasn't and the threat of ENOSIS was still there and thae fact that Makarios would not let the Zurich agreement back in it's entirety was also there. Are you denying these facts???????If not then why is the "RoC" not pushing this as here goal...Why will they not just say they want to return to this agreement????