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by **Kifeas** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:12 pm

Today Talat gave an interview to Sabah Turkish newspaper.

Among other funny things, he also said that he wouldn’t want to see any of his children ever getting married to a Greek Cypriot.

Glorify him!
Honor him!
Applaud him!

What a modern, pro-European, open-minted, intelligent, progressive leader!
What a considerable and serious co-partner Greek Cypriots will have in a future re-united Cyprus!

Glorify him!
Honor him!
Applaud him!

Chauvinism in its highest peak of glory!
I know Talat is a fervent kemalist.
Is this also one of the principles of the Kemalist ideology?

by **pantelis** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:28 pm

He would say anything for a vote. He thinks he is a politicar "leader" :lol:

by **Alexandros Lordos** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:32 pm

Kifeas wrote:Today Talat gave an interview to Sabah Turkish newspaper.

Among other funny things, he also said that he wouldn’t want to see any of his children ever getting married to a Greek Cypriot.

Glorify him!
Honor him!
Applaud him!

What a modern, pro-European, open-minted, intelligent, progressive leader!
What a considerable and serious co-partner Greek Cypriots will have in a future re-united Cyprus!

Glorify him!
Honor him!
Applaud him!

Chauvinism in its highest peak of glory!
I know Talat is a fervent kemalist.
Is this also one of the principles of the Kemalist ideology?

Hey Kifeas, I think you are taking this too seriously ...

Most GCs feel similarly about having their kids married to TCs, it's not chauvinism just social conservetivism.

Each of the two communities of Cyprus can be split in three groups:

Firstly, those who are willing to totally transcend the distinction between GC and TC, in favor of "Cypriotness and shared humanity". These are the people who would be willing to intermarry as well. These people comprise about 20% of each community.

Secondly, those who think the distinction between GC and TC is important, but that there is also an overall "Cypriotness" which we all share. For these people, it is OK to have GC (or TC) neighbors, or to co-operate with GCs in business and in government, but the essense of each culture - the "Greekness" and the "Turkishness" - should remain undiluted. Therefore they oppose intermarriage, at least for their own children, and perhaps also they oppose bicommunal schools, at least for their own children. These people comprise about 45% of each community (and Talat is, in my opinion, exactly in the middle of this group).

Thirdly, there are those who believe that they have nothing in common with the other community, we are either "Greeks" or "Turks" and there is no particular reason why we should co-exist or co-operate. Partition, or domination of the whole island, are the preferred solution modes for this group. These people comprise about 35% of each community.

by **pantelis** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:36 pm

Being a refrigerator repairman - turned "PM", you don't have too many options.

by **insan** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:43 pm

pantelis wrote:Being a refrigerator repairman - turned "PM", you don't have too many options.

I have thought that Talat was among %20.

by **insan** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:50 pm

http://www.sabah.com.tr/2005/04/01/siy98.html

I've just read the Sabah news but he didn't say such a thing like what Kifeas alleged.

by **Kifeas** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:58 pm

Alexandros Lordos wrote:Most GCs feel similarly about having their kids married to TCs, it's not chauvinism just social conservetivism.

Alexandros,

Talat is not just anyone ordinary, uneducated, narrow-minded, primitive, citizen of anyone of the two communities.

He is the leader of a community that claims he wants to take it into the E.U. and goes every now and then to Brussels and plays the grant European. And also someone who claims to want to re-unite his community with the GC community in one country. And also someone who accuses GCs for not being true Europeans and that they shouldn’t be accepted in the E.U., because they didn’t accept his political equality solution.

It just isn't the same!

by **insan** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:03 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Alexandros Lordos wrote:Most GCs feel similarly about having their kids married to TCs, it's not chauvinism just social conservetivism.

Alexandros,

Talat is not just anyone ordinary, uneducated, narrow-minded, primitive, citizen of anyone of the two communities.

He is the leader of a community that claims he wants to take it into the E.U. and goes every now and then to Brussels and plays the grant European. And also someone who claims to want to re-unite his community with the GC community in one country. And also someone who accuses GCs for not being true Europeans and that they shouldn’t be accepted in the E.U., because they didn’t accept his political equality solution.

It just isn't the same!

Kifeas, Why are you splitting your hairs while Talat even didn't say something like what you alleged. Where did you read it? Can you give us the link please?

by **Kifeas** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:04 pm

Insan wrote:I've just read the Sabah news but he didn't say such a thing like what Kifeas alleged.

It was broadcasred in at least two TV stations today.
Is there an interview by Talat in Sabah?

by **insan** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:05 pm

Kifeas wrote:
Insan wrote:I've just read the Sabah news but he didn't say such a thing like what Kifeas alleged.

It was broadcasred in at least two TV stations today.
Is there an interview by Talat in Sabah?

The link I have given above is the only news about Talat on Sabah newspaper, based on his speech made in Istanbul/Beykoz.

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