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[MR-from-NG]

what the whole world knows is that Turkey occupies eu territory. Your big brother is there alright, but don't forget he's watching you. He's about to send 50,000 little brothers to make sure you behave

I remember my community when it's population could just about fill up Wembley stadium. I dream of those days but realise that's all can do, that alexISS is thanks to the GCs. So to put it in a nutshell you screwed yourselves and you screwed us good and proper.

It's your big brother that screwed you, not the GCs. You harmed the GCs as much as you got harmed until 1974, then your big brother screwed EVERYTHING up

I had a choice to make. Get killed or get f***ed. Which one would you choose?

[GreekForumer]

The whole world knows without the intervention of Turkey there wouldn't be a single TC left alive.

Rubbish!

Here is what I wrote in another thread and no TC or Turk had the courage to touch it.

i mean just look at the GCs, if they had succeeded with their Enosis and genocidal agendas.

How can you say in other threads there is "no evidence" that Turks Genocided Armenians despite the fact that Turks murdered Armenians in the 100s of thousands in 1894-96 and 10s of thousands in 1909. In 1915 Turks forced Armenian women and children and elderly to march across Anatolia without sufficient transport or food or water or shelter. Why did some of these convoys go in circles ? Why did some of these convoys bypass townships where they could get life giving sustenance ? And then Turkish leaders claim they died by accident ? And those Armenian women and children who were "relocated" to the bottom of the Black Sea? I suppose that is not evidence for Genocide but "massacres carried out by private citizens". Even the Germans, your WW1 buddies (and witnesses to the crimes), say a Genocide occurred. Did you read about the Genocide resolution in the USA ? Even those politicians that voted AGAINST the resolution, CONCEDED a Genocide occurred but they did not want to upset the Turkish Ally.


Having said that,
What is your evidence GCs has "Genocidal agendas" ?
Are you saying the GC leftists had a Genocidal agenda ?
Or was it just the coupists that had a "Genocidal agenda" ?
Coupists are a minority, right ? That's why they have to do coups, right ?

Maybe the coupists were only interested in declaring and securing Enosis. Maybe the coupists would have to kill the TC leadership to pacify the ordinary TCs. (As Turkey did to the GCs in 1822 or the Kurds in 1920s). Maybe the coupists would ban Turkish language, schools, newspapers, etc and henceforth call TCs "Mountain Greeks". Maybe they would have told the TCs that if they did not want to become citizens of Greece they they could pack their bags and leave. (As Turkey did to the Alexandrettans in 1939). Maybe they could have introduced RACIST and DESTRUCTIVE laws on TCs, like an OUTRAGEOUS wealth tax intended to IMPOVERISH and (most importantly!) CRIMINALISE the TC tax payer.(Like Turkey did to Greeks during WW2). Perhaps turn TC areas into OPEN PRISONS. This list can go on. There are many ways to get rid of TCs. GCs can look to Turkey for inspiration.

Anyway,
What is your evidence GCs wanted to rid Cyprus of ALL TCs ?
What is your evidence GCs would get rid of them by Genocide ?

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[alexISS]

A more precise analogy would be : would you rather get screwed by 400,000 people that you've been screwing yourself, or would you rather be screwed by 70,000,000, one way?

[MR-from-NG]

The whole world knows without the intervention of Turkey there wouldn't be a single TC left alive.

Rubbish!

Here is what I wrote in another thread and no TC or Turk had the courage to touch it.

i mean just look at the GCs, if they had succeeded with their Enosis and genocidal agendas.

How can you say in other threads there is "no evidence" that Turks Genocided Armenians despite the fact that Turks murdered Armenians in the 100s of thousands in 1894-96 and 10s of thousands in 1909. In 1915 Turks forced Armenian women and children and elderly to march across Anatolia without sufficient transport or food or water or shelter. Why did some of these convoys go in circles ? Why did some of these convoys bypass townships where they could get life giving sustenance ? And then Turkish leaders claim they died by accident ? And those Armenian women and children who were "relocated" to the bottom of the Black Sea? I suppose that is not evidence for Genocide but "massacres carried out by private citizens". Even the Germans, your WW1 buddies (and witnesses to the crimes), say a Genocide occurred. Did you read about the Genocide resolution in the USA ? Even those politicians that voted AGAINST the resolution, CONCEDED a Genocide occurred but they did not want to upset the Turkish Ally.


Having said that,
What is your evidence GCs has "Genocidal agendas" ?
Are you saying the GC leftists had a Genocidal agenda ?
Or was it just the coupists that had a "Genocidal agenda" ?
Coupists are a minority, right ? That's why they have to do coups, right ?

Maybe the coupists were only interested in declaring and securing Enosis. Maybe the coupists would have to kill the TC leadership to pacify the ordinary TCs. (As Turkey did to the GCs in 1822 or the Kurds in 1920s). Maybe the coupists would ban Turkish language, schools, newspapers, etc and henceforth call TCs "Mountain Greeks". Maybe they would have told the TCs that if they did not want to become citizens of Greece they they could pack their bags and leave. (As Turkey did to the Alexandrettans in 1939). Maybe they could have introduced RACIST and DESTRUCTIVE laws on TCs, like an OUTRAGEOUS wealth tax intended to IMPOVERISH and (most importantly!) CRIMINALISE the TC tax payer.(Like Turkey did to Greeks during WW2). Perhaps turn TC areas into OPEN PRISONS. This list can go on. There are many ways to get rid of TCs. GCs can look to Turkey for inspiration.

Anyway,
What is your evidence GCs wanted to rid Cyprus of ALL TCs ?
What is your evidence GCs would get rid of them by Genocide ?

Link

Going so far back in history is pointless. What I'm talking about is something that happened in my lifetime.

Sampson would have wiped us off the face of the earth. That is a fact.

[MR-from-NG]

A more precise analogy would be : would you rather get screwed by 400,000 people that you've been screwing yourself, or would you rather be screwed by 70,000,000, one way?

There's a vast difference between getting screwed and being exterminated

[Viewpoint]

1963-1974 vs 1974-2008 which do you think TCs will choose?

[Oracle]

The unfortunate thing is that the TCs are cowards ... have proved beyond doubt that they are cowards, their whole miserable existence is based on preserving their sorry butts ... .. so they have made themselves into the ultimate victims.

Who better to capitalize on their cowardly nature, than bully-boy Turkey who has capitalised on their cowardice to kidnap them and make them feel safe with 43,000 Turks guarding them ..

TCs are a joke...

Free yourselves ...

You have nothing to lose but your chains ..

Get your self-respect back, open your eyes ... there is a whole wide wonderful world out there waiting for you, if you free yourselves from Turkish shackles...

[MR-from-NG]

The unfortunate thing is that the TCs are cowards ... have proved beyond doubt that they are cowards, their whole miserable existence is based on preserving their sorry butts ... .. so they have made themselves into the ultimate victims.

Who better to capitalize on their cowardly nature, than bully-boy Turkey who has capitalised on their cowardice to kidnap them and make them feel safe with 43,000 Turks guarding them ..

TCs are a joke...

Free yourselves ...

You have nothing to lose but your chains ..

Get your self-respect back, open your eyes ... there is a whole wide wonderful world out there waiting for you, if you free yourselves from Turkish shackles...

You have nothing to lose but your ch...lives

[Viewpoint]

The unfortunate thing is that the TCs are cowards ... have proved beyond doubt that they are cowards, their whole miserable existence is based on preserving their sorry butts ... .. so they have made themselves into the ultimate victims.

Who better to capitalize on their cowardly nature, than bully-boy Turkey who has capitalised on their cowardice to kidnap them and make them feel safe with 43,000 Turks guarding them ..

TCs are a joke...

Free yourselves ...

You have nothing to lose but your chains ..

Get your self-respect back, open your eyes ... there is a whole wide wonderful world out there waiting for you, if you free yourselves from Turkish shackles...

We made our choice in 1974 and it wasnt the GCs, your hospitality during those fun years was just to much for our community to cope with and paying with our lifes just to support your dream of enosis was a high price to pay.

[umit07]

Phoenix, what makes you think we are not free?

To be honest what you are offering is worse than the situation we are in, so no thanks.

If our only will is to "preserve of selfish butts " why won't GC's accept the precautions we want in the new unified cyprus, after all as you said we have no other hidden agenda like Greekifying the entire island.