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[umit07]

... Phoenix helped a lot in this department
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Could you expand on this please ....

I certainly can.

Well you see under your "uk account" as you call it you were very very provocative and I would constantly get into swearing mode the second I would read a lot of your posts. Now I am very much used to it and just sit back and relax. I find a lot of your posts in the political thread quite twisted. But I really like the way you are so passionate and write in a poetic way from your hard iron heart. In the end, however twisted you are I think you are a good person down under all that armour.

[Oracle]

Phoenix the entire dispute is NOT about, the troops going back. The troops are part of the equation but, they are not the problem itself. The problem in Cyprus is purely political. If the only reason was troops why didn't the GC's vote "Yes" to the annan plan which saw the decrease of troops to a mere 650 in a few years.

Umit ,
some how they never talks about Greek Troops from Greece my friend.No one talks how many they are in Cyprus .Very simple one they have 26 generals in the Greek Cypriot army .they are officers are from Greece mate . With normal army forums if you have 26 generals in the army .... let them calculate the amount of the Greek troops in Cyprus.
Very soon France will take presidency of Cyprus , İt would'nt be suprise if they gives a military base to France . They were talking lately.....

when right times comes all troops will go ....... greeks , turks , british....
only limited numbers will be here ..... we mustn't play with ourself .İnternational treaties are there.....

Greek and even French troops would have more rights to be here ..... as EU member partners ...... that is a privilege Turkish troops will never have ...... they are here illegally, and not for the good of the Cypriots but only for the good of the Turks ...

[boomerang]

Phoenix the entire dispute is NOT about, the troops going back. The troops are part of the equation but, they are not the problem itself. The problem in Cyprus is purely political. If the only reason was troops why didn't the GC's vote "Yes" to the annan plan which saw the decrease of troops to a mere 650 in a few years.

Umit ,
some how they never talks about Greek Troops from Greece my friend.No one talks how many they are in Cyprus .Very simple one they have 26 generals in the Greek Cypriot army .they are officers are from Greece mate . With normal army forums if you have 26 generals in the army .... let them calculate the amount of the Greek troops in Cyprus.
Very soon France will take presidency of Cyprus , İt would'nt be suprise if they gives a military base to France . They were talking lately.....

when right times comes all troops will go ....... greeks , turks , british....
only limited numbers will be here ..... we mustn't play with ourself .İnternational treaties are there.....

Hey polly the parrot, the US has bases in "turkey= the fascist state"

What do you make of that?

I say Greek and Turkish forces completely out of Cyprus...

Now can you say the same, or are you shitting your pants that you will be slapped with article 301...Come on I dare you to scream out TURKISH TROOPS out of Cyprus...

I will go first...GREEK TROOPS OUT OF Cyprus...your turn polly

Come on polly the parrot, you think you can rise to the challenge, or you think democracy doesn't work this way...

PS...solution or no solution Polly

Solution will only come ,Polly, when you start growing some balls

[Oracle]

... Phoenix helped a lot in this department
...

Could you expand on this please ....

I certainly can.

Well you see under your "uk account" as you call it you were very very provocative and I would constantly get into swearing mode the second I would read a lot of your posts. Now I am very much used to it and just sit back and relax. I find a lot of your posts in the political thread quite twisted. But I really like the way you are so passionate and write in a poetic way from your hard iron heart. In the end, however twisted you are I think you are a good person down under all that armour.

I think you are very knowledgeable for one so young and value your desire to get to the root of the Cyprus problem with a view to finding a solution. I think you possess a great passion for learning and you have a bright future ahead...

I wonder what you are studying, but realise that is too personal to ask for ...

[denizaksulu]

Whilst looking at a map of Cyprus, with its curving scar, the "Attila Line" ..... I was reminded of the Yin-Yang symbol.

The dark, negative, bad force of the Turks in the north and the light, positive, good Yang of the Cypriots in the south.

No doubt we are opposing forces.

But just as in good there is always a little bit of evil, in evil there is always a little bit of good ...

How can we tap into the "good" bit of the Turks? .... and make them realise the Golden Rule of Confucius:

"What one does not wish for oneself, one ought not to do to anyone else; what one recognises as desirable for oneself, one ought to be willing to grant to others."
Why does Turkey do to others, what it does not wish others, to do to it?

What can we do to make Turkey see the light?

I have been saying this to the GCs for a very long time.

What goes around, comes around.

[boomerang]

Whilst looking at a map of Cyprus, with its curving scar, the "Attila Line" ..... I was reminded of the Yin-Yang symbol.

The dark, negative, bad force of the Turks in the north and the light, positive, good Yang of the Cypriots in the south.

No doubt we are opposing forces.

But just as in good there is always a little bit of evil, in evil there is always a little bit of good ...

How can we tap into the "good" bit of the Turks? .... and make them realise the Golden Rule of Confucius:

"What one does not wish for oneself, one ought not to do to anyone else; what one recognises as desirable for oneself, one ought to be willing to grant to others."
Why does Turkey do to others, what it does not wish others, to do to it?

What can we do to make Turkey see the light?

I have been saying this to the GCs for a very long time.

What goes around, comes around.

What goes around, comes around

I would greatly appreciate it you stop memtioning my name

thank you

[Oracle]

Whilst looking at a map of Cyprus, with its curving scar, the "Attila Line" ..... I was reminded of the Yin-Yang symbol.

The dark, negative, bad force of the Turks in the north and the light, positive, good Yang of the Cypriots in the south.

No doubt we are opposing forces.

But just as in good there is always a little bit of evil, in evil there is always a little bit of good ...

How can we tap into the "good" bit of the Turks? .... and make them realise the Golden Rule of Confucius:

"What one does not wish for oneself, one ought not to do to anyone else; what one recognises as desirable for oneself, one ought to be willing to grant to others."
Why does Turkey do to others, what it does not wish others, to do to it?

What can we do to make Turkey see the light?

I have been saying this to the GCs for a very long time.

What goes around, comes around.

Deniz ... could you not have used a different colour?... you have made the whole quote look messy now ...

Tidy up ....

[umit07]

... Phoenix helped a lot in this department
...

Could you expand on this please ....

I certainly can.

Well you see under your "uk account" as you call it you were very very provocative and I would constantly get into swearing mode the second I would read a lot of your posts. Now I am very much used to it and just sit back and relax. I find a lot of your posts in the political thread quite twisted. But I really like the way you are so passionate and write in a poetic way from your hard iron heart. In the end, however twisted you are I think you are a good person down under all that armour.

I think you are very knowledgeable for one so young and value your desire to get to the root of the Cyprus problem with a view to finding a solution. I think you possess a great passion for learning and you have a bright future ahead...

I wonder what you are studying, but realise that is too personal to ask for ...

Well Phoenix I don't find your question too personal at all. I am studying Electrical and Electronics Engineering. My mother always wanted me to study political science like my father but I never liked politicians. To me politicians talk too much and get very little accomplished.

With regard to the annan plan and withdrawal of troops everything was to be done step by step, with each party involved withdrawing troops in the same time frame. What is wrong with this? If you don't trust us that much next time if there is any we can give you Talat as a hostage . Phoenix I gt the sense that you see us as bloody used car dealers trying to sell you a dodgy car. Don't forget that in the end we are all in the same boat.

[Oracle]

.... Don't forget that in the end we are all in the same boat.

Sorry umit ... here we part company .... we are not in the same boat.

Whilst the TCs with their kinship to their "saviours" the Turks have alternatives ... the GCs removed from their homes do not ...

You seem unable to empathise with the plight of these people ousted from their homes of countless generations ... kept from them by relatively recent intruders and their accomplices, the TCs who betrayed us ...

For you, it is about holding on to your gains ... for the GCs it is about restoring their losses ...

The evil rests with Turkey and the people that side with them ...

[repulsewarrior]

OP, I too ask you to turn your idea around. I would suggest to you that the answers you seek can be found within yourself. What makes you think that you a "Greek" is superior to a "Turk"? we are all equal, and in each one of us there is this duality of "Good and Evil". Why not try the Umit7 experiment yourself?