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Postby miltiades » Fri May 02, 2008 9:11 pm

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miltiades wrote:VP , you ought to take time off and visit the mosques in the ROC , you will see that not only are the mosques kept in good condition but also NONE have been converted into churches , stables or warehouses.You really ought to make that effort.


What about those that have been demolished? Would it have been better if we removed them completely? You GCs are more devious than us if there's nothing left than how can you say they were misused?

VP , this finger pointing of you and you and you really isn't constructive at all . Where Mosques were destroyed it was as a result of contemptible behaviour by brainless individuals and not by a systematic effort by the ROC unlike the churches in the occupied part . I personally inspected the
Limassol one and the one just outside in the village of Ipsonas .Both in remarkably good condition . No civilized Cypriot would condone the senseless destruction of any religious sites regardless of his own faith or the lack of it.
The destruction of religious places is not only counter productive but barbaric. I will personally , and I have done so before , intervene in situations where an individual or authority sponsored group of individuals indulge in destructive behaviour against symbols of faith or culture.
Will you do so too VP ?
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Postby Nikitas » Fri May 02, 2008 9:15 pm

I can understand the desecration, even the stealing of icons and selling them. What really is beyond my ability to understand is the conversion of an already desecrated church into a Mosque. What does that say about those that do it? What do they say about themselves by doing it?
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Postby bilako22 » Sat May 03, 2008 8:26 am

Nikitas wrote:I can understand the desecration, even the stealing of icons and selling them. What really is beyond my ability to understand is the conversion of an already desecrated church into a Mosque. What does that say about those that do it? What do they say about themselves by doing it?


Why destroy a building that is no longer used when it came become a much-used Mosque? Ayo Sophia is a lovely example , until it became a popular museum.
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Postby RAFAELLA » Sat May 03, 2008 10:25 am

Viewpoint wrote:Will it include any pictures of destroyed mosques in destroyed TC villages in 1963, ho I forgot theres nothing left to take pictures of.

Someone would expect a serious answer to this topic but the above answer coming from you VP it's no surprise.
Instead of condemning this huge destruction you prefer to hide behind your little finger.

Isn't it a blessing that you come from a country with a history of thousands of years? Doesn't this make you proud? ...but how proud are you when your own history and culture is being destroyed?

The fact that you live in a place where history and culture is systematically destroyed by the blessings of your leaders it only can cause sadness. Sadness due to the fact that you failed as human beings to respect the history and culture of your own country and the religion of your own compatriots.
Your systematic attempts to annihilate anything Greek or Christian it only makes you liable to the whole world. And we are not the ones who are exposing themselves but you ...and I must say you are doing a great job, unfortunately.

bilako22 wrote:Why destroy a building that is no longer used when it came become a much-used Mosque? Ayo Sophia is a lovely example , until it became a popular museum.

Yes, why not?! Good idea bilako.
Gcs should start turning the mosques in the free areas into churches, mortuaries, stables etc.
Don't you thing they'll be more usefull?
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Postby miltiades » Sat May 03, 2008 10:34 am

bilako22 wrote:
Nikitas wrote:I can understand the desecration, even the stealing of icons and selling them. What really is beyond my ability to understand is the conversion of an already desecrated church into a Mosque. What does that say about those that do it? What do they say about themselves by doing it?


Why destroy a building that is no longer used when it came become a much-used Mosque? Ayo Sophia is a lovely example , until it became a popular museum.

I'm pleased the likes of with such views are in the minority amongst the T/Cs.
If a mosque in the ROC was converted into a church there would be an outcry from the civilized world. No Cypriot would EVER accept such desecration , but you Bilako thinks is perfectly acceptable !!!
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat May 03, 2008 11:39 am

repulsewarrior wrote:viewpoint Turkish Cypriot or not
if there is no compassion
what do you call a man?


Human.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat May 03, 2008 11:50 am

miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
miltiades wrote:VP , you ought to take time off and visit the mosques in the ROC , you will see that not only are the mosques kept in good condition but also NONE have been converted into churches , stables or warehouses.You really ought to make that effort.


What about those that have been demolished? Would it have been better if we removed them completely? You GCs are more devious than us if there's nothing left than how can you say they were misused?

VP , this finger pointing of you and you and you really isn't constructive at all . Where Mosques were destroyed it was as a result of contemptible behaviour by brainless individuals and not by a systematic effort by the ROC unlike the churches in the occupied part . I personally inspected the
Limassol one and the one just outside in the village of Ipsonas .Both in remarkably good condition . No civilized Cypriot would condone the senseless destruction of any religious sites regardless of his own faith or the lack of it.
The destruction of religious places is not only counter productive but barbaric. I will personally , and I have done so before , intervene in situations where an individual or authority sponsored group of individuals indulge in destructive behaviour against symbols of faith or culture.
Will you do so too VP ?


Without doubt, we also have churches in the TRNC which are in pristine condition and they are open to GCs who wish to utilize them. Apostolos Andreas is currently being renovated. The mosques you have on show are exactly that for show to prove you keep them in good condition to say exactly what you are saying we look after yours but you don't look after ours but this is not the general condition of mosques which have been demolished or used to keep animals, I have in the past posted a number of villages where this is exactly the case. The fact that we do not have the financial strength to renovate these churches of which many have been converted into believe it or not houses of god called mosques so converting them back to houses of god for you guys will be possible, what will you do about the ones that you have demolished?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat May 03, 2008 11:52 am

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Viewpoint wrote:Will it include any pictures of destroyed mosques in destroyed TC villages in 1963, ho I forgot theres nothing left to take pictures of.


Hey shit for brains, never mind your continued bullshit, just provide the same links that show us what you mean. You just full of shit mate. Even when the evidence is overwhelming and staring you in the face you still have the audacity to moan about 1963. Fuck ass hole.


Once you learn some manners and how to ask nicely is the day you may get an answer but as long as you act like an animal you will be ignored.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat May 03, 2008 11:58 am

RAFAELLA wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Will it include any pictures of destroyed mosques in destroyed TC villages in 1963, ho I forgot theres nothing left to take pictures of.

Someone would expect a serious answer to this topic but the above answer coming from you VP it's no surprise.
Instead of condemning this huge destruction you prefer to hide behind your little finger.

Isn't it a blessing that you come from a country with a history of thousands of years? Doesn't this make you proud? ...but how proud are you when your own history and culture is being destroyed?

The fact that you live in a place where history and culture is systematically destroyed by the blessings of your leaders it only can cause sadness. Sadness due to the fact that you failed as human beings to respect the history and culture of your own country and the religion of your own compatriots.
Your systematic attempts to annihilate anything Greek or Christian it only makes you liable to the whole world. And we are not the ones who are exposing themselves but you ...and I must say you are doing a great job, unfortunately.

bilako22 wrote:Why destroy a building that is no longer used when it came become a much-used Mosque? Ayo Sophia is a lovely example , until it became a popular museum.

Yes, why not?! Good idea bilako.
Gcs should start turning the mosques in the free areas into churches, mortuaries, stables etc.
Don't you thing they'll be more usefull?


Answer the question Rafella, any desecration of religious buildings is abominable but what I am trying to say is if you live in glass houses you should not throw stones, if we are guilty then you much share this guilt as you carried such abominable acts well before us, but ho no you choose to ignore these facts as it does not suit your aim to expose the evil TCs.

Better to convert mosques inti churches which are also houses of worship to God and then have the option to convert them back than have them destroyed, removes from the face of the earth leaving no evidence to be accused of such barbaric acts.
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Postby bilako22 » Sun May 04, 2008 10:42 am

Viewpoint wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Will it include any pictures of destroyed mosques in destroyed TC villages in 1963, ho I forgot theres nothing left to take pictures of.

Someone would expect a serious answer to this topic but the above answer coming from you VP it's no surprise.
Instead of condemning this huge destruction you prefer to hide behind your little finger.

Isn't it a blessing that you come from a country with a history of thousands of years? Doesn't this make you proud? ...but how proud are you when your own history and culture is being destroyed?

The fact that you live in a place where history and culture is systematically destroyed by the blessings of your leaders it only can cause sadness. Sadness due to the fact that you failed as human beings to respect the history and culture of your own country and the religion of your own compatriots.
Your systematic attempts to annihilate anything Greek or Christian it only makes you liable to the whole world. And we are not the ones who are exposing themselves but you ...and I must say you are doing a great job, unfortunately.

bilako22 wrote:Why destroy a building that is no longer used when it came become a much-used Mosque? Ayo Sophia is a lovely example , until it became a popular museum.

Yes, why not?! Good idea bilako.
Gcs should start turning the mosques in the free areas into churches, mortuaries, stables etc.
Don't you thing they'll be more usefull?


Answer the question Rafella, any desecration of religious buildings is abominable but what I am trying to say is if you live in glass houses you should not throw stones, if we are guilty then you much share this guilt as you carried such abominable acts well before us, but ho no you choose to ignore these facts as it does not suit your aim to expose the evil TCs.

Better to convert mosques inti churches which are also houses of worship to God and then have the option to convert them back than have them destroyed, removes from the face of the earth leaving no evidence to be accused of such barbaric acts.


It seems that the main difference between the TCs and GCs is that the former adapts buildings so that they can be used productively whilst the latter prefers to either destroy or let them become derelict.
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