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[Medman]

I have recently seen the film and it doesn't make good viewing for either the Greek Cypriots and the Turkish Army on many counts. There is no Turkish Cypriot viewpoint on the events, but it was from a Greek Cypriot director afterall. In the film it features Nicos Sampson smoking away and giving his opionions on the events in 74. However can any mild mannered person in the know please explain to me why Nicos Sampson was only jailed in 1976, whilst some of EOKA B's henchmen got away scott free it seems? Any views? It seems that the director focused on the fact that to be a good Greek Cypriot, that the only true goal is ENOSIS. Hmmm!!!!

[T_C]

I downloaded that to my ipod a few weeks ago, you just reminded me to watch it...Only a few minutes into it but just had to comment that theres video footage of the Enosis sign on the mountains in the 1st few minutes. I knew it wasn't a "photoshop hoax" as some claimed at the time...

[Medman]

Astrocities happen in war, that's a fact. Both sides committed inhumane things during 74 and before that. The priest at the start was mortified as to how Greeks turned on one another after the coup. If you were considered a lefty, a communist or Markarios supporter it seems your days were numbered. Under that much pressure no wonder Greek Cypriots didn't speak up against their own kind. Some GC and TC took great risks to protect their neighbours from either community during the clashes. The National Guard which was embedded with Greek officers at the time turned on their own people. That's just wrong! Even now GC's don't like to talk about it. Why?
Face your fears and do it anyway.

You can see the film on 'Google Video'.

[Nikitas]

The director of the film is Cacoyannis, from the well known Limassol family and director of Zorba the Greek and other major films. He lives in Athens.

No prosecutions of people involved in the 1974 events have taken place. A few private individuals went ahead and started private procedings, something hard to do under the Common Law system we have in Cyprus, but even these were stopped by the Attorney General in Cyprus (he has the right to stop private prosecutions).

The Cyprus File, the name used for the sum total of evidence of events leading up to the coup and invasion, as well as subsequent events, has been classified both in Greece and Cyprus.

From the above we can infer that the file contains evidence that would be harmful to both countries as well as allied nations. It is also clear that it contains evidence about the involvement of people still living and politically active.

Sampson was allowed to spend his last days in Paris.

[Medman]

Thanks Nikitas for stepping up the plate. I know of GC who still side step the issue, especially persucution of their own.

[DT.]

The director of the film is Cacoyannis, from the well known Limassol family and director of Zorba the Greek and other major films. He lives in Athens.

No prosecutions of people involved in the 1974 events have taken place. A few private individuals went ahead and started private procedings, something hard to do under the Common Law system we have in Cyprus, but even these were stopped by the Attorney General in Cyprus (he has the right to stop private prosecutions).

The Cyprus File, the name used for the sum total of evidence of events leading up to the coup and invasion, as well as subsequent events, has been classified both in Greece and Cyprus.

From the above we can infer that the file contains evidence that would be harmful to both countries as well as allied nations. It is also clear that it contains evidence about the involvement of people still living and politically active.



Sampson was allowed to spend his last days in Paris.

minor correction nikitas. Sampson was allowed to spend his last years in Cyprus on his farm. He was in Paris before that.

[Nikitas]

I have been studying the Cyprus File investigations for years. I will not name my sources, but the file shows that there was a conspiracy by all guarantor powers against Cyprus.

One man who knows enough and has talked publicly is general Alevromagiros, who was posted to Cyprus after the July 20 1974. He defended (succesfully) Nicosia and his opinion is that there was an agreement for double union, but that Turkey double crossed the Greek side once it saw the chaos in Cyprus.

It does not take too much investigating to see that there is no honor to any side. The nation that would be ridiculed most if the facts were released would be Turkey that likes to portray itself as the big victor. If you know that the match was fixed all the manufactured glory goes down the drain.

And after all these years there is one single sentence that still intrigues me. Dictator Ioannides saying "the bastards double crossed me" once the invasion started. He is still alive but still silent about it. He is the one man who could blow this thing wide open.

[Oracle]

So Turkey has invaded us, and continues to occupy us. Does it matter that Turkey lied to a few Greek Generals or even lied to the Anglo-Americans and went for gold on its own ... and got it.
They can tackle Turkey themselves!

The end result for Cyprus is still the same.

The ones we are still currently at war with are Turkey (Greece has clearly withdrawn) and the Anglo-Americans maintain their interest.

Let us not detract from the fact we have Turkey to remove and the Anglo-Americans to leave satisfied that they are not going to suffer materially from the RoC regaining full Democratic control over the whole Island.

[Nikitas]

Perhaps I am naive, and I expected Turkey to lie, but how about those "few generals" who said their goal was something totally different from partition and double union? Why are they to be let off scott free? Some even got their full pension and no blemish on their discharge papers.

And we still do not know who the "bastards" were who double crossed Ioannides.

[Oracle]

But what was he "double-crossed" about? .... fresh egg delivery?