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[Oracle]

Youtube was banned because of AKP party. Not the Kemalists.

Mrs Stella Grivas; what is your problem with homosexuals? Who cares if he is? It's not really an insult to say that someone is or isn't a homosexual, it's their sexual preference. Afterall, Makarious is homosexual too.

I said it was the government that imposed the youtube ban, it is your assumption it was the Kemalists. But only because tess asked, why she got such a message

And I am not the one who has a problem with homosexuals, clearly the Turkish government does as they did the banning. Since you now finally accept Kemal was homosexual, perhaps you can enlighten your people to be more accepting and tolerant, instead of trying to erase the truth, again!

Since you are so keen on the truth, why dont you find out exactly why the site was banned instead of making insinuations. You are almost always wrong with your assumptions and insinuations. Get a life.

It was to prevent Turks from accessing anything the government/those really in power, saw as anti-Turkishness. A Freedom of speech issue which they are now having to re-address due to criticism from many Human Rights activists and EU governments ... as you know Deniz.

[denizaksulu]

Youtube was banned because of AKP party. Not the Kemalists.

Mrs Stella Grivas; what is your problem with homosexuals? Who cares if he is? It's not really an insult to say that someone is or isn't a homosexual, it's their sexual preference. Afterall, Makarious is homosexual too.

I said it was the government that imposed the youtube ban, it is your assumption it was the Kemalists. But only because tess asked, why she got such a message

And I am not the one who has a problem with homosexuals, clearly the Turkish government does as they did the banning. Since you now finally accept Kemal was homosexual, perhaps you can enlighten your people to be more accepting and tolerant, instead of trying to erase the truth, again!

Since you are so keen on the truth, why dont you find out exactly why the site was banned instead of making insinuations. You are almost always wrong with your assumptions and insinuations. Get a life.

It was to prevent Turks from accessing anything the government/those really in power, saw as anti-Turkishness. A Freedom of speech issue which they are now having to re-address due to criticism from many Human Rights activists and EU governments ... as you know Deniz.

I dont see any of the great Turkish artistes being hung drawn and quartered for being gay. Would that be anti Turkish. We all know your ' modus operandi' dont we? Many Turks know whatever the truth is, so you are wasting your time and energy. The great man will always be right up there in your face. Live with it or let it go. The choice is yours.

Have a good day.

[Oracle]

I said it was the government that imposed the youtube ban, it is your assumption it was the Kemalists. But only because tess asked, why she got such a message

And I am not the one who has a problem with homosexuals, clearly the Turkish government does as they did the banning. Since you now finally accept Kemal was homosexual, perhaps you can enlighten your people to be more accepting and tolerant, instead of trying to erase the truth, again!

Since you are so keen on the truth, why dont you find out exactly why the site was banned instead of making insinuations. You are almost always wrong with your assumptions and insinuations. Get a life.

It was to prevent Turks from accessing anything the government/those really in power, saw as anti-Turkishness. A Freedom of speech issue which they are now having to re-address due to criticism from many Human Rights activists and EU governments ... as you know Deniz.

I dont see any of the great Turkish artistes being hung drawn and quartered for being gay. Would that be anti Turkish. We all know your ' modus operandi' dont we? Many Turks know whatever the truth is, so you are wasting your time and energy. The great man will always be right up there in your face. Live with it or let it go. The choice is yours.

Have a good day.

Then why don't you give us the Turkish version of why the Turkish government banned access to youtube in Turkey ... and from what tessintrnc has said... they have banned it in the "trnc" as well

Access to this web site is banned by "TELEKOMÜNİKASYON İLETİŞİM BAŞKANLIĞI" according to the order of: Ankara 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi, 05/05/2008 of 2008/402.

[denizaksulu]

I said it was the government that imposed the youtube ban, it is your assumption it was the Kemalists. But only because tess asked, why she got such a message

And I am not the one who has a problem with homosexuals, clearly the Turkish government does as they did the banning. Since you now finally accept Kemal was homosexual, perhaps you can enlighten your people to be more accepting and tolerant, instead of trying to erase the truth, again!

Since you are so keen on the truth, why dont you find out exactly why the site was banned instead of making insinuations. You are almost always wrong with your assumptions and insinuations. Get a life.

It was to prevent Turks from accessing anything the government/those really in power, saw as anti-Turkishness. A Freedom of speech issue which they are now having to re-address due to criticism from many Human Rights activists and EU governments ... as you know Deniz.

I dont see any of the great Turkish artistes being hung drawn and quartered for being gay. Would that be anti Turkish. We all know your ' modus operandi' dont we? Many Turks know whatever the truth is, so you are wasting your time and energy. The great man will always be right up there in your face. Live with it or let it go. The choice is yours.

Have a good day.

Then why don't you give us the Turkish version of why the Turkish government banned access to youtube in Turkey ... and from what tessintrnc has said... they have banned it in the "trnc" as well

Access to this web site is banned by "TELEKOMÜNİKASYON İLETİŞİM BAŞKANLIĞI" according to the order of: Ankara 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi, 05/05/2008 of 2008/402.

Where in that ruling does it mention that MKAtaturk was gay, and that is why the site was banned? Show me and I will kiss your hand in respect.

[boomerang]

What do you think Deniz?...isn't the usual crap from "tuekey=fascist state"

I have met many turks that can't stand Ata...some restaurants in Melb, exhibit a picture of Ata and others islamic writing...I think you can tell the difference...

Or you subscribe to the myth that everyone loves Ata in "turkey=fascist state"?...

[boomerang]

Oh I nearly forgot...

Hey Zan, you and and the family, have a bonza of a holiday...

[Oracle]

I said it was the government that imposed the youtube ban, it is your assumption it was the Kemalists. But only because tess asked, why she got such a message

And I am not the one who has a problem with homosexuals, clearly the Turkish government does as they did the banning. Since you now finally accept Kemal was homosexual, perhaps you can enlighten your people to be more accepting and tolerant, instead of trying to erase the truth, again!

Since you are so keen on the truth, why dont you find out exactly why the site was banned instead of making insinuations. You are almost always wrong with your assumptions and insinuations. Get a life.

It was to prevent Turks from accessing anything the government/those really in power, saw as anti-Turkishness. A Freedom of speech issue which they are now having to re-address due to criticism from many Human Rights activists and EU governments ... as you know Deniz.

I dont see any of the great Turkish artistes being hung drawn and quartered for being gay. Would that be anti Turkish. We all know your ' modus operandi' dont we? Many Turks know whatever the truth is, so you are wasting your time and energy. The great man will always be right up there in your face. Live with it or let it go. The choice is yours.

Have a good day.

Then why don't you give us the Turkish version of why the Turkish government banned access to youtube in Turkey ... and from what tessintrnc has said... they have banned it in the "trnc" as well

Access to this web site is banned by "TELEKOMÜNİKASYON İLETİŞİM BAŞKANLIĞI" according to the order of: Ankara 1. Sulh Ceza Mahkemesi, 05/05/2008 of 2008/402.

Where in that ruling does it mention that MKAtaturk was gay, and that is why the site was banned? Show me and I will kiss your hand in respect.

I'll repeat since you did not understand the first time ...

Then why don't you give us the Turkish version of why the Turkish government banned access to youtube in Turkey ... and from what tessintrnc has said... they have banned it in the "trnc" as well

[tessintrnc]

Its back now!!! And I know someone in Turkey who has access - what the "blip" was I don't know, but not all Turkey is banned!!!

[Oracle]

YouTube banned in Turkey after video insults

A holding page on YouTube informs users in Turkey that "Access to this site has been denied by court order!"

Nico Hines
A court in Istanbul has issued an order denying access to the video-sharing website YouTube. The state owned Turk Telecom implemented the ban today after an escalating dispute between Greek and Turkish users of the site.

The court order was issued yesterday and most internet users logging onto the site in Turkey are met with a holding page with a Turkish message, which translates as: “Access to this site has been denied by court order ! ...”.

Greek and Turkish YouTube users have been trading video insults over the past few months, attracting much coverage in the Turkish press. Greek videos reportedly accused the founding president of the Turkish Republic, Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, of homosexuality; a Turkish user responded by calling Greece the birthplace of homosexuality.

It is illegal to criticise either Ataturk or Turkishness in Turkey and the prosecutor’s office in Istanbul acted despite YouTube’s agreement to take down the offending videos.

Turkey wishes to join the EU in the next round of enlargement and has been criticised for its failure to safeguard freedom of expression. The country’s most famous author, Orhan Pamuk, faced up to three years in jail after being charged with “insulting Turkishness” after talking to a Swiss newspaper about Turkey’s human rights record. The case was dropped in January after international condemnation.

Nurten Altinok, the press prosecutor at the Istanbul Republican Chief Prosecutor’s Office, asked the Istanbul police to provide evidence of the criticisms of Ataturk on YouTube. After studying a CD of the videos she asked a magistrate to review the case, a court order was issued by an Istanbul criminal court yesterday.

A spokesman from the Turkish Embassy in London said: “The videos included parts which insulted Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, our founding father. There is no explanation from the Turkish government, it was a court verdict. English profanities were placed on top of the Turkish flag and pictures of Ataturk.”

Videos posted on the user-generated site included a Greek marching song, which celebrated the bloody history between the two nations and labelled Turkey “Little Asia”.

Paul Doany, the head of Turk Telecom, the country’s largest internet provider explained: “We are not in the position of saying that what YouTube did was an insult, that it was right or wrong.”

He told the state-run Anatolia news agency: “A court decision was proposed to us, and we are doing what that court decision says.”

Some of the smaller private internet providers have not yet implemented the ban.

Source: Time

Youtube Banned in turkey once again
Saturday, January 19, 2008
WikiNews
Screenshot of the message YouTube visitors in Turkey found.The popular video website YouTube has been blocked in Turkey once more. Several sources quote complaints against a video that insults Atatürk, founder and first president of the Republic of Turkey, as the reason for the block. On Friday, internet users in Turkey found the website replaced by a notice saying:

“ Access to this web site has been suspended in accordance with decision no: 2008/55 of T.R. Ankara 12th Criminal Court of Peace.


It seems to be an ongoing problem ....

[denizaksulu]

What do you think Deniz?...isn't the usual crap from "tuekey=fascist state"

I have met many turks that can't stand Ata...some restaurants in Melb, exhibit a picture of Ata and others islamic writing...I think you can tell the difference...

Or you subscribe to the myth that everyone loves Ata in "turkey=fascist state"?...

Some do and some dont Boomers. Betweeen the war years, 1919 and 1923, there was civil war in Turkey between the Turkish Nationalists and the Ottoman forces backed by Greece and their allies. After the war many former Ottomans left Turkey to join the Turkish diaspora. So you may be right. Religion and Kemalism do not necessarily go hand in hand. After Europes apathy towards Turkey are you surprised that some are turning towards the East (Islamic) for their future. Did all Greeks love Venizelos?and your point is?