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[halil]

from Simerini News paper poll results Majority of the GC's does not wants to live under the Turkish Cypriots controlled part of the İsland .Similar results were came out from the TC's as well .Majority of the TC's does not want to live under the GC's controlled part of the Cyprus .

What will happen than ?

TC's can read news in Turkish at below link and make their comments as well .
http://www.kibrisligazetesi.net/kibrisl ... e_id=15872




News from the Simrini

[DT.]

from Simerini News paper poll results Majority of the GC's does not wants to live under the Turkish Cypriots controlled part of the İsland .Similar results were came out from the TC's as well .Majority of the TC's does not want to live under the GC's controlled part of the Cyprus .

What will happen than ?

TC's can read news in Turkish at below link and make their comments as well .
http://www.kibrisligazetesi.net/kibrisl ... e_id=15872




News from the Simrini

This means that Talats performance at the talks where he did not even mention a BBF but only 2 states has created a lot of pessimism amongst the Greek Cypriots.

[Oracle]

The TCs have gone downhill .....

Nobody wants them now .... they have a long way to go to prove themselves worthy compatriots after their ongoing shenanigans, ranging from the top (Leader) to the last "half TC-half Anatolian" specimen.

[tessintrnc]

The TCs have gone downhill .....

Nobody wants them now :roll: .... they have a long way to go to prove themselves worthy compatriots after their ongoing shenanigans, ranging from the top (Leader) to the last "half TC-half Anatolian" specimen.

Speaking for everyone again O???

[denizaksulu]

The TCs have gone downhill .....

Nobody wants them now .... they have a long way to go to prove themselves worthy compatriots after their ongoing shenanigans, ranging from the top (Leader) to the last "half TC-half Anatolian" specimen.

The GCs have gone downhill, too.
We are in the same...............................boat. Say something constructive for once Oracle mou

[DT.]

The TCs have gone downhill .....

Nobody wants them now .... they have a long way to go to prove themselves worthy compatriots after their ongoing shenanigans, ranging from the top (Leader) to the last "half TC-half Anatolian" specimen.

The GCs have gone downhill, too.
We are in the same...............................boat. Say something constructive for once Oracle mou

I'd love to be constructive about this Deniz. You have to admit that the GC's aren't given much choice. On the one hand you have a President who has done his best to always address the concerns of both communities, has just finished speaking to a gathering of TC's in London and has a free hand to negotiate a good deal for Cyprus.

On the other you have talat who has said nothing about a federation, speaks of 2 states, of gaurantees from turkey and of the rights of turkey on this island.

How would you expect our mood to go?

[Nikephoros]

For a clear picture of what Christians(both Greek Cypriots and Maronites) deal with when living with the fanatic Mohammedian/Kemalist regime of North Cyprus(or TRNC):

http://assembly.coe.int/Main.asp?link=http...%2FEDOC9714.htm
Rights and fundamental freedoms of Greek Cypriots and Maronites living in the northern part of Cyprus Doc. 9714 20 February 2003

Report
Committee on Legal Affairs and Human Rights Rapporteur: Mr Dick Marty, Switzerland, Liberal, Democratic and Reformers' Group

... "According to figures supplied by the Secretary General of the United Nations to the General Assembly in his report of 30 May 2001, 428 Greek Cypriots and 167 Maronites remain in this area. The numbers are constantly declining and by 29 October 2001 had already fallen to respectively 427 and 165. Above all, it is an ageing population. Happily, a birth was reported in the Greek Cypriot community on 14 August 2001. The Maronite population is concentrated in four villages:
Ayia Marina, Asomatos, Karpasia, and Kormakitis (Koruçam); the Greek Cypriot population is grouped in the two villages of Ayia Triada and Rizokarpaso (Dipkarpaz) in the Karpas (Karpaz) peninsula" ...

... "the Maronite community ... but the Holy See's recent contacts with the administrative authorities for humanitarian purposes will probably not be enough to avoid the community's extinction since no births have been recorded since Turkey's military intervention and the
average age of Maronites is now 72." ...

... "The Court further held, by sixteen votes to one, that, from an overall standpoint, there had been a violation of Article 8 concerning the right of Greek Cypriots living in northern Cyprus to respect for their private and family life and to respect for their home. In this connection the Court noted that the population concerned was subjected to serious restrictions on the exercise of these rights, including monitoring of its members' movements and contacts. The surveillance
effected by the authorities even extended to the physical presence of State agents in the homes of Greek Cypriots on the occasion of social or other visits paid by third parties, including family members." ...

Just like motherland Turkey, Turkish trash regime of North Cyprus only treats well Christian tourists, not the enclaved Greek Cypriots and Maronites.

Enclaved Aspect of the Cyprus problem by the ROC

In the aftermath of the Turkish invasion in 1974, about 20,000 people - mainly Greek Cypriots including just over a thousand Maronites - found themselves cut off behind enemy lines in their villages in the north-eastern Karpass peninsula and in the Maronite villages west of Kyrenia town.

This group of people known as the enclaved remained in their villages in the hope that, following the ceasefire, they would be able, unperturbed, to carry on with their normal way of life. Unfortunately their hopes were soon frustrated. The illegal Turkish occupation regime adopted a policy of oppression, human rights violation and harassment, in an effort to drive these people out of their homes and properties.

By December 1974, 12,000 people had chosen to remain in their homes in the areas occupied by the Turkish army, instead of moving to the Government-controlled part of Cyprus. ...

The Government of Cyprus brought up this serious matter during negotiations with the Turkish Cypriot side, held under the auspices of the United Nations on 2 August 1975 in Vienna.

Under mounting international pressure, the Turkish Cypriot leader Mr Denktash signed, in the presence of the then UN Secretary-General Mr Kurt Waldheim, a humanitarian agreement, the implementation of which would improve the living conditions of the enclaved.

The agreement, known as the Vienna III agreement, stipulated that the Greek Cypriots and Maronites, who had remained in the occupied part of Cyprus, would be free to stay, be reunited with the families and given every help to lead a normal life, including facilities for education and for the practice of their religion, as well as medical care by doctors of their own community.

...

Only clueless Greek Cypriots believing in the using leftist created myths can convince themselves how the Turkish Cypriots are compatriots, brothers or to trust the TRNC at all.

From the sources enclaved Greek Cypriots and Maronites:
12,000 decided to remain behind allegedly protected by the 1975 Vienna Agreement(but Mohammedian Turks used hudna tactic to break this agreement once again)
By 29 October 2001 their numbers have fallen to respectively 427 and 165(mostly elderly)

What is there discuss about this fiasco? Should another agreement be concluded with Mohammedian Turks so they can use hudna tactic again to wipe their butts with the agreement, while bitching and moaning as victims in front of the international community the whole time?

[zan]

We got such a good deal in Cyprus from you guys Nikephoros

[Nikephoros]

Actually fanatic Mohammedian Turkish Cypriot known as Zan, no one in my family is Greek Cypriot(luckily). I am Peloponnesian, and your lot did not get such a good deal there. There were not many leftist loser Greeks to screw things up back then with fairy tales about peaceful tolerant muslim Turks who just want to live in peace. Our motto was "freedom or death", not any garbage of Turkish and Greek Cypriots being brothers and partners in the 1960 Constitution etc.(garbage which many Greek Cypriots still parrot on this forum).

So just so you know not every group of Greeks is so easy to take advantage of as Greek Cypriots if you happen to be a Turk.

[zan]

Actually fanatic Mohammedian Turkish Cypriot known as Zan, no one in my family is Greek Cypriot(luckily). I am Peloponnesian, and your lot did not get such a good deal there. There were not many leftist loser Greeks to screw things up back then with fairy tales about peaceful tolerant muslim Turks who just want to live in peace. Our motto was "freedom or death", not any garbage of Turkish and Greek Cypriots being brothers and partners in the 1960 Constitution etc.(garbage which many Greek Cypriots still parrot on this forum).

So just so you know not every group of Greeks is so easy to take advantage of as Greek Cypriots if you happen to be a Turk.

Was that Turks or Ottomans?????