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Who is Talad and how free is he?

Postby Piratis » Wed Apr 28, 2004 9:33 pm

During the last several decades we got to know Denctash very well: He wanted partition and he would do everything possible to achieve his aim. He was the favorite man of the general in Turkey and he served their interests.

What does Talad want? Does he want recognition of TRNC also? Is he satisfied with current situation, of he is willing to compromise for a solution?

How free from Turkey is he? Can he actually take some important decisions, or absolutely everything is still controlled by Turkey?

We saw him supporting that all settlers should stay. Why? Because he thinks this is right? Because he needs their votes? Because this is what Turkey wants?
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Postby metecyp » Thu Apr 29, 2004 4:56 am

We saw him supporting that all settlers should stay. Why? Because he thinks this is right? Because he needs their votes? Because this is what Turkey wants?

He didn't support that all settlers should stay. He supported 40.000 of them to stay as stated in the Annan plan and the reason is that most of the 40.000 settlers came to Cyprus right after 1974. They've been in Cyprus for more than 30 years, so he probably thinks that it's not fair to ask these people leave the island after spending 30 years on the island. I agree with him, you cannot solve one refuge problem by creating another.

He's definetely much closer to TCs than Denktas is. He never uses phrases like "Turkey's interests on the island" like Denktas does when he refers to Cyprus problem. I cannot say that he is completely against TRNC, he supports some kind of seperate structure for TCs in a united Cyprus. But he doesn't use TRNC to emphasize the division of the island. He regards TRNC more like self-determination right of TCs.

He's does not go right against Turkey in regards to Cyprus problem but at the same time, he is not completely controlled by Turkey. He's not satisfied with the current situation at all, that's why he's very disappointed with AKEL.

That's all I can think about him right now.
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Re: Who is Talad and how free is he?

Postby PEACE » Fri Apr 30, 2004 11:20 pm

Piratis wrote:What does Talad want? Does he want recognition of TRNC also? Is he satisfied with current situation, of he is willing to compromise for a solution?

How free from Turkey is he? Can he actually take some important decisions, or absolutely everything is still controlled by Turkey?

We saw him supporting that all settlers should stay. Why? Because he thinks this is right? Because he needs their votes? Because this is what Turkey wants?


Talat said that he is going to work for a solution ! He don't want recognition of TRNC cos he knows what is TRNC! We want logical things! Like we want embargoes to be lifted !

He have to say that he wants all settelers to stay cos settelers can be used in a propaganda of Denktas!


Of course even Papadopulos is NOT free to decide freely from Greece about Cyprus Problem! Cos this is a problem of guarantors also! Guarantor must sign the agreement in order to be valid ! This is enough to show guarantor's effect on Cyprus' future!
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Re: Who is Talad and how free is he?

Postby mehmet » Sat May 01, 2004 12:58 am

Of course even Papadopulos is NOT free to decide freely from Greece about Cyprus Problem!

If anyone disputes this can they explain why we he has not spoken about the way forward yet he has gone to Athens to discuss issues with Greek state.
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Postby Piratis » Sat May 01, 2004 1:13 am

Greece supports our decisions, they do not impose anything on us.

What we have to take into account is the amount of support we can expect from them, because obviously they will not sacrifice everything for us.

But, theoretically speaking, if one day we decided we do not need their support we could just act on our own without saying a word to them and they wouldn't have a problem with that.

There is a huge difference between the relationship of Turkey-Turkish Cypriot leadership and Greece- Greek Cypriots.
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Postby metecyp » Sat May 01, 2004 2:50 am

There is a huge difference between the relationship of Turkey-Turkish Cypriot leadership and Greece- Greek Cypriots.

I agree with that. Hopefully TCs will develop a more balanced relationship with Turkey as GCs did with Greece.
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Postby mehmet » Sat May 01, 2004 11:11 am

Thank you for clarifying that. Obviously there is work to do to achieve similar relationship between Turkey and Turkish Cypriot leadership.
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