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Turkish Settlers: Armed and Extremely Dangerous!

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby CopperLine » Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
CopperLine wrote:With regards northern Cyprus where population data is more difficult to specify the most reliable figures - and the method of calculation - can be found at the highly respected Peace Research Institute Oslo report from last year. See http://www.prio.no/Cyprus/Publications/Beyond-Numbers-An-Inquiry-into-the-Political-Integration-of-the-Turkish-Settlers-in-Northern-Cyprus/

Here's an interesting section of that report from page 16...

Using statistics from the Labour and Education authorities of the TRNC, it is possible to divide Turkish nationals who are not citizens of the TRNC but may be present in northern Cyprus at any given moment into five main categories:

• workers with work permits (16,277 plus their families);
• workers without work permits (estimated at 20,000–30,000 plus their families);
• tourists (annual average per day is 1,695);
• students and lecturers (18,398 students and around 500 teaching staff);5
Turkish army personnel, with families and conscripts (35,000).


Not exactly the kind of misinformation I expected to read in a "highly respected" Peace Research Institute Oslo report... :lol:


Case Closed GR! ... well done!

Someone needs to remind those necessary, of these extra HIDDEN Turkish soldiers sneaked upon our shores ....

I have only highlighted… (1) the unreliable SOURCE of this report’s information, and (2) and immediate erroneous figure presented for the number of Turkish soldiers which should be around 37,000 excluding family members!

I said nothing about "hidden soldiers"… :)


Well done Get Real you've managed to make an important point :roll: For you to be able to say that this source is unreliable and the number given is erroneous you MUST have a comparator figure which is from a more reliable source. What is the 'true' figure and what is this more reliable source ?

Since the government of RoC does not conduct a census in the north, since it does not publish figures about the north, since it does not have Turkish army figures we all have real problems in basing our comments on RoC data. Since the international agencies, including EUROSTAT, base their figures on data submitted by national governments - and by definition RoC does not submit data for northern Cyprus - then international data is unreliable and certainly cannot be verified.

So yes the PRIO data may not be accurate but it is more reliable - given the variety of sources, the methods of verification and cross-referencing adopted - than the alternative speculations and conjectures.
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