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[erolz]

and i dont think that settlers should be bark of the agreeent meanting that GCs whose properties are occupied by settlers automatically roll a 6.

If a GC loses a roll against a property occupied by a settler the property reverts to the TRNC state. If the TRNC wishes to give that property to the settler at no charge (again) or rent it to them or throw them out of it is up to the TRNC state.

[magikthrill]

Mr Lordos

Not so far from the truth. At one time it was suggested to an Ottoman Emperor that Cyprus indeed be given as a homeland for the Jews by his Grand Vizier. Needless to say it never transpired.

Is that so? [/quote]

you didnt know this alexandre? i thought this is how you got your proposal. apparently the jews didnt like cyprus and so know we have two conflicts thanks to them.

[erolz]

you didnt know this alexandre? i thought this is how you got your proposal. apparently the jews didnt like cyprus and so know we have two conflicts thanks to them.

were they not 'offered' madagascar after WW2 as well? (though who exactly had the right to make such an offer I am not sure?)

[Leon]

magikthrill the difference between the first two solutions is that the second officially recognises north Cyprus as the Turkish Republic of North Cyprus (TRNC) and it is no longer a part of Cyprus as such.

[cannedmoose]

and i dont think that settlers should be bark of the agreeent meanting that GCs whose properties are occupied by settlers automatically roll a 6.

If a GC loses a roll against a property occupied by a settler the property reverts to the TRNC state. If the TRNC wishes to give that property to the settler at no charge (again) or rent it to them or throw them out of it is up to the TRNC state.

Why not let's sit Tassos and Mehmet down at a table and let them play strip poker over the future of the island. First to get naked has to agree to the others terms... put it on PIK, it would be a ratings triumph! Well... maybe if they blanked the screen once they got down to their jocks...

[cannedmoose]

How about this solution? All GCs go to Greece, all TCs go to Turkey, all Jews from Israel come to Cyprus, which will then be declared to be a Jewish State, and what is now Israel becomes the state of Palestine. That way, the Cyprus Problem and the problems of the middle east are all solved in one master stroke!

Mr Lordos

Not so far from the truth. At one time it was suggested to an Ottoman Emperor that Cyprus indeed be given as a homeland for the Jews by his Grand Vizier. Needless to say it never transpired.

Is that so?

Sorry to burst folks' bubbles here, but that was a rumour only, there is no evidence that there was an actual plan to mould Cyprus into a Jewish state.

The rumour is that in the late 1560s, Don Yosef Nasi, Duke of Naxos, a Jewish Portuguese nobleman forced to live in Constantinople through fear of the Inquisition, encouraged Sultan Selim the Second to declare war on Venice in order to conquer Cyprus. The Grand Vizzier Mehmet Sokolli had tried to dissuade the Sultan from doing so.

Don Yosef proved the more insistent and persistent and managed to persuade the Sultan to go to war with the Venetians. The rumour is that Don Yosef intended to promote Cyprus as a place of settlement for Jews from across Europe and the Middle East, which may well have been true. Certainly the rumour spread across the courts of Europe where it was believed that Don Yosef Nasi had persuaded the Sultan to grant him rulership over Cyprus, although no evidence is apparent to support this claim.

The crux is that while the Ottoman's were successful in taking over Cyprus, their invasion sparked the creation of a powerful coalition against them of Spain, Venice, Rome and Austria, which resulted in the near destruction of the Ottoman fleet at the battle of Lepanto in 1571. Thus, the victory in Cyprus proved to be a pyrrhic one and one from which the Ottomans never fully recovered in terms of naval supremacy in the eastern Mediterranean.

As a consequence, Don Yosef and other pro-war agitators became discredited in the Ottoman court. Any offer that had been made to him over Cyprus was certainly not honoured and the rumour entered folklore.

[Agios Amvrosios]

I've got another solution, move everyone off the island and let the donkeys, cats and moufflon take over... they'll probably do a better job.

to jeraton sou

[garbitsch]

I must confess that I voted for the last option just to protest this silly poll...

[cannedmoose]

I've got another solution, move everyone off the island and let the donkeys, cats and moufflon take over... they'll probably do a better job.

to jeraton sou

Someone care to translate AA's comment? Don't understand the middle word...

[Saint Jimmy]

The middle word literally means 'horn'.
The whole expression could mean something like 'fuck off' - not the precise meaning, but you get the picture.