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Destiny's children

Postby Talisker » Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:46 pm

Today, Sunday the 22nd of November, 2009 there was very good news in Cyprus. In the free and democratic south of the island Mr and Mrs Savvas announced the birth of their firstborn, twins, a boy, Spiros, and a girl, Androulla. Coincidentally, in the northern Turkish-occupied part of the island Mr and Mrs Osman were pleased to announce the birth of their first children, also twins, a boy named Mehmet, and a girl called Ayse. The coincidences don't end there. Mr Savvas and Mr Osman are both 33 years old, have completed military service, and are high school history teachers. Mrs Savvas and Mrs Osman are 28 years of age, and are taking maternity leave from their jobs as estate agents.

Given your experiences of Cypriot life, understanding of the economic, religious and cultural differences in the north and south of the island, and your predictions for future changes (or not) in Cyprus within the lifetimes of the newborn children, map the destinies of the four babies, Spiros and Androulla, Mehmet and Ayse.
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Postby YFred » Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:19 pm

I can tell you what Oracle will say, Mehmet and Ayse will grow up to be thieves and live in the occupied lands for eternity, whilst Spiragui and andrulla will grow up to be proper humans with conscience and a career and represent Cyprus in some glorious event and put Cyprus on the world map.

Does that make you happy?

BTW your south is not as free as you would like to think...... Dream on.
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Postby Talisker » Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:35 pm

YFred wrote:I can tell you what Oracle will say, Mehmet and Ayse will grow up to be thieves and live in the occupied lands for eternity, whilst Spiragui and andrulla will grow up to be proper humans with conscience and a career and represent Cyprus in some glorious event and put Cyprus on the world map.

Does that make you happy?

BTW your south is not as free as you would like to think...... Dream on.

Thanks for your imaginative input. :roll:
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Postby insan » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:12 pm

It is obvious that, lately; somethings urge Talisker to attack TRNC and dignify so-called RoC... is it maybe the Turkish-Kurdish arguements in general chat section? Or u have been badly hurt by any actions of Turkish government? Or u r trying to provoke TCs? Or u have some interests in South or Greece?
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Postby YFred » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:29 pm

insan wrote:It is obvious that, lately; somethings urge Talisker to attack TRNC and dignify so-called RoC... is it maybe the Turkish-Kurdish arguements in general chat section? Or u have been badly hurt by any actions of Turkish government? Or u r trying to provoke TCs? Or u have some interests in South or Greece?

Insan be reasonable, you cannot dignify something which has no dignity?
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Postby Talisker » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:29 pm

insan wrote:It is obvious that, lately; somethings urge Talisker to attack TRNC and dignify so-called RoC... is it maybe the Turkish-Kurdish arguements in general chat section? Or u have been badly hurt by any actions of Turkish government? Or u r trying to provoke TCs? Or u have some interests in South or Greece?

The scenario stems from some of the information presented and discussed within the Human rights thread (http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27433) which, as I explained to Copperline, itself was a result of my curiosity and investigation on the matter, having never been to the northern occupied part myself, but being very familiar with the south. I'm surprised you see this thread as an 'attack' on the TRNC - surely it is an opportunity for TCs to promote their culture and future opportunities in the same way as it is for GCs? After all, for all the political arguments and bickering about historical events, we all want the best for our children, and this theoretical scenario allows us the chance to compare and contrast the possible future lives of 'typical' children in both communities.
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Postby B25 » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:52 pm

YFred wrote:I can tell you what Oracle will say, Mehmet and Ayse will grow up to be thieves and live in the occupied lands for eternity, whilst Spiragui and andrulla will grow up to be proper humans with conscience and a career and represent Cyprus in some glorious event and put Cyprus on the world map.

Does that make you happy?

BTW your south is not as free as you would like to think...... Dream on.


For once I am in total agreement with Yfred :lol: :lol:

Can we be friends now?????? :lol:
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Postby insan » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:52 pm

Talisker wrote:
insan wrote:It is obvious that, lately; somethings urge Talisker to attack TRNC and dignify so-called RoC... is it maybe the Turkish-Kurdish arguements in general chat section? Or u have been badly hurt by any actions of Turkish government? Or u r trying to provoke TCs? Or u have some interests in South or Greece?

The scenario stems from some of the information presented and discussed within the Human rights thread (http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27433) which, as I explained to Copperline, itself was a result of my curiosity and investigation on the matter, having never been to the northern occupied part myself, but being very familiar with the south. I'm surprised you see this thread as an 'attack' on the TRNC - surely it is an opportunity for TCs to promote their culture and future opportunities in the same way as it is for GCs? After all, for all the political arguments and bickering about historical events, we all want the best for our children, and this theoretical scenario allows us the chance to compare and contrast the possible future lives of 'typical' children in both communities.


If it was what u wished to emphisize u didn't need to define one side as "free and democratic" and the other side as "occupied North"... u clearly give us an impression that u intentionally choose some words to express ur opinions.

There isn't much difference between two sides regarding democracy and human rights. In TRNC, most of the problems arise from economic insufficiencies which is something mainly related with economic embargoes. Thew embargoes badly affect all aspects of life in TRNC. Hope next time u define both sides more rationally by taking into account the circumstances too...

Though if u r a GC or a foreigner who has sympathy to GC cause that's another issue and feel free to define the sides how u wish...
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Re: Destiny's children

Postby Get Real! » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:54 pm

Talisker wrote:Given your experiences of Cypriot life, understanding of the economic, religious and cultural differences in the north and south of the island, and your predictions for future changes (or not) in Cyprus within the lifetimes of the newborn children, map the destinies of the four babies, Spiros and Androulla, Mehmet and Ayse.

That's easy... Mehmet and Ayse will have the same IQ as unkie Y-Fronts, whereas Spiros and Androulla will be blessed with that of unkie GR. :D
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Postby B25 » Sun Nov 22, 2009 9:57 pm

insan wrote:
Talisker wrote:
insan wrote:It is obvious that, lately; somethings urge Talisker to attack TRNC and dignify so-called RoC... is it maybe the Turkish-Kurdish arguements in general chat section? Or u have been badly hurt by any actions of Turkish government? Or u r trying to provoke TCs? Or u have some interests in South or Greece?

The scenario stems from some of the information presented and discussed within the Human rights thread (http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27433) which, as I explained to Copperline, itself was a result of my curiosity and investigation on the matter, having never been to the northern occupied part myself, but being very familiar with the south. I'm surprised you see this thread as an 'attack' on the TRNC - surely it is an opportunity for TCs to promote their culture and future opportunities in the same way as it is for GCs? After all, for all the political arguments and bickering about historical events, we all want the best for our children, and this theoretical scenario allows us the chance to compare and contrast the possible future lives of 'typical' children in both communities.


If it was what u wished to emphisize u didn't need to define one side as "free and democratic" and the other side as "occupied North"... u clearly give us an impression that u intentionally choose some words to express ur opinions.

There isn't much difference between two sides regarding democracy and human rights. In TRNC, most of the problems arise from economic insufficiencies which is something mainly related with economic embargoes. Thew embargoes badly affect all aspects of life in TRNC. Hope next time u define both sides more rationally by taking into account the circumstances too...

Though if u r a GC or a foreigner who has sympathy to GC cause that's another issue and feel free to define the sides how u wish...


Stop whinging you pussy, Talisker made no attack on TC/Turks.

It's in your thick head, anyone that doesn't bow to you must anti Turk, FFS.

The man is scotish, he asked a reasonable question why you have to turn it into shit again is anyones guess, but then you are a Turk and thats what you do best.

Jesuuusssss!
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