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[grokked]

Reader Discussion - 10th December to 16th December 2009:

Reader comments (Cyprus-related) about the recent EU Enlargement Committee and Foreign Ministers COREPER Decision about its decision regarding the Assessment of Turkey's Accession Process.

The article itself (http://www.economist.com/world/europe/displayStory.cfm?story_id=15073982) ads little to enlighten much, but the discussion in the 'reader comments' deserve reading through, and do note that the page is interactive, allowing you to vote in favour of (but not against) comments you like (and if you create an account, can add your own comments to the continuing discussion)

Transformation of Turkey / Kurdistan into bi-zonal bi-communal federation | Reader Comments @ Aphrodites troubled island | The Economist -

http://bit.ly/6rhLQK

[paliometoxo]

thats a good one! Like turkey will let kurdish have any rights in turkey let alone bi zonal hahaha only the turkish minority deserves anything no other minority has any rights they are not human

[bill cobbett]

A Turkish/Kurdish BBF is the best idea have heard tonight.

Excellent way forward.

Equal Community Rights for Kurds in Jurkey Now!

[paliometoxo]

pigs will fly before turkey gives its minority anything im suprised they dont charge them for the air they breath on turkish land...

[insan]

Who gives a f**k abt a pro-Turkish media; The Economist... If this game will be played how it suits; who gives a f**k for anything... all roads lead to Rome...

[Me Ed]

TCs in 74 - 18%
TCs in 2009 - 8%

Kurds 2009 - 20%

Do the math.

[insan]

TCs in 74 - 18%
TCs in 2009 - 8%

Kurds 2009 - 20%

Do the math.

Have u any idea what percent of citizens of TRNC have mixed Turkish-TC ethnicity and what percent of "Kurdish" citizens of Turkey have mixed ethnicity of Kurdish-Turkish, Kurdish-Arabic etc?

No, in ur simplistic mind...

[grokked]

Quote:

http://www.economist.com/comment/435847#comment-435847

Antifon wrote:
Dec 14th 2009 2:11 GMT

I have just been informed by the Economist moderator that the below message, after review, was reinstated. As by now it is buried before dozens of comments, let me share it with you again.

Fahrettin Tahir | Dec 8th 2009 3:35 GMT

The comparison between the Turkish Cypriot minority and the Kurdish minority in the Cypriot and Turkish Republics is FAIR and LONG OVERDUE.

The CORE question is:

HAVE ENOUGH KURDS BEEN KILLED or HAVE THEIR HUMAN RIGHTS BEEN SUFFICIENTLY SUPPRESSED, over these past several decades, TO WARRANT A FOREIGN POWER TO INTERVENE AND SET THINGS RIGHT IN TURKEY, JUST AS TURKEY SAW FIT TO DO BACK IN 1974 in the case of the Turkish Cypriots?

It would not be legal for the international community or member thereof to do so. But, I am wondering, would it be MORAL, THE RIGHT THING TO DO?

THE QUESTION IS RHETORICAL. THE ANSWER IS SELF-EVIDENT. NONE IS EXPECTED BY YOU.

I apologize to both the Greeks of Cyprus and the Kurds of Turkey for EQUATING the repeated and enduring appalling crimes of the Turkish state against the Kurdish people to MINOR lapses of democratic behavior against the Turkish Cypriot minority, the latter only serving as a convenient excuse for the Turkish army to justify an INVASION and subsequent OCCUPATION of another country, A DESERVING EUROPEAN NATION.

Turkey is full of "inconsistencies" all stemming from the notion of "Ataturkian democracy" which certain circles in Turkey have conjured up and will justify anything to defend "it". The thing is: THE WORLD DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT "ATATURKIAN" MEANS, AND NEVER WILL. FOR IT IS SIMPLY AN EXCUSE TO DEFEND THE INEXCUSABLE LACK OF DEMOCRACY IN TURKEY.

My message to Europe is the following: CYPRUS IS EUROPEAN. UNRELATED TO TURKEY. LET IT NOT SUFFER ANYMORE SIMPLY BECAUSE OF AN UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCE: being located so close TO A REGIONAL UNDEMOCRATIC BULLY!

Quote:

"I predict that Turkey will not survive unscathed the most recent Kurdish revolt as a result of the ban of the pro Kurdish party.

"In my mind, if it was possible in Cyprus, then it is certainly possible in Turkey to be speaking of the transformation of the Turkish Republic into a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation, if onl...y to save it from partition, as the ONLY SOLUTION TO AN EVER INCREASING KURDISH AWARENESS."

[Me Ed]

TCs in 74 - 18%
TCs in 2009 - 8%

Kurds 2009 - 20%

Do the math.

Have u any idea what percent of citizens of TRNC have mixed Turkish-TC ethnicity and what percent of "Kurdish" citizens of Turkey have mixed ethnicity of Kurdish-Turkish, Kurdish-Arabic etc?

No, in ur simplistic mind...

Well your comments only serve to admit the annihilation of the TC identity.

My point is that the Kurd % of Turkey is greater than the TC minority in Cyprus and as for numbers we are talking millions.

Follow your Cyprus policy and break up Turkey in two and you never know, you might be small enough to be accepted into the EU.

Give the Kurds justice and grant them automity, it will only benefit Turkey.

[repulsewarrior]

Cyprus a template for Turkey's woes...

...please read my manifesto.