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Postby insan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:13 pm

"Cheeky sods" eh? Imagine a united Cyprus when divergence of opinions occure, how illiterally and anti-democratically would insult some a**eholes like Hermes the others who have divergances... :lol:
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Postby insan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:20 pm

Malapapa wrote:
insan wrote:First of all malapapa, i consider ur evaluation of Annan Plan as very exagerated interpretations...


First of all insan, I was not talking about the Annan proposal which is now ancient history. I was talking about what is happening now. Please pay attention before grabbing the wrong end of the stick, OK?

insan wrote:don't forget that u r not the centre of the ultimate truth... Therefore, insulting people who voted "yes" to Annan Plan as "mentally deficient", or "low iq" only shows ur iiliteracy and immature...


I wasn't. Don't put words into my mouth.

insan wrote:Before u talk abt democracy, human rights and freedom of speech u have to learn it first by respecting and not insulting who interpreted Annan Plan different than how u interpreted... otherwise just put forward ur opinions and interpretations; ask people what their counter-arguements r but NEVER insult people that have different opinions and interpretations on issues u differ... OK?


No it's not OK, because I write one thing and you read another.

insan wrote:Is there something called freedom of insulting people in ur "free areas" just because they have divergences?


No. Now get off your high-horse and read what I actually said and respond to that.


What is happening now is not any different than what had been happening in the past 35 years...

What they r doing now is talking on unnegotiated parts of Annan Plan which essentialy was based on UN resolutions and agreements between the leaders of 2 ethnic groups of Cyprus.... so please stop pretending that i couldn't comprehend what u were talking abt... and NEVER insult the people u have divergences... please...
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:24 pm

Well after the British left, both Greece and Turkey played us both.

Whilst the GC have eliminated Greece from their affairs, the TCs are still, to this day being played by the Turks.
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:25 pm

Well after the British left, both Greece and Turkey played us both.

Whilst the GC have eliminated Greece from their affairs, the TCs are still, to this day being played by the Turks.
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Postby FragnaticDeath » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:26 pm

oh insan insan. You have no clue what your talking about.

People who vote yes are indeed stupid for accepting such a crazy plan. Yes its crazy and we don't gain anything, we actually lose even more.

A person just you is like an animal of africa called the Hyena. There is nothing to love about them. You just steal and steal more on others peoples life livings.
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:26 pm

Well after the British left, both Greece and Turkey played us both.

Whilst the GC have eliminated Greece from their affairs, the TCs are still, to this day being played by the Turks.
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Postby insan » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:33 pm

Me Ed wrote:Well after the British left, both Greece and Turkey played us both.

Whilst the GC have eliminated Greece from their affairs, the TCs are still, to this day being played by the Turks.


The political and economic circumstances provided u a better environment to officially or secretly regulate ur mutual relations, collabortaions and cooperations...

U succeded with uniting on ur national cause and national interests...

In Turkey and TRNC the political and economic circumstances have never provided a very good environment for 2 sides to regulate their mutual relations, collabortaions and coopertaions...

However, we have better relations with Turkey when compared to a decade ago...
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Postby Malapapa » Wed Dec 23, 2009 9:37 pm

insan wrote:What is happening now is not any different than what had been happening in the past 35 years...


What are you on about?

Fact: Cyprus in the EU.

Fact: Turkey and its lackeys in the north want an agreement which (and I repeat):

• jeopardizes hard fought freedoms secured by EU membership.
• gives away the human right to properties belonging to Cypriots in the north.
• accepts derogations to EU law which no other EU citizens would countenance.
• relinquishes the principle of universal suffrage.
• opens the door for Turkey to interfere in the domestic affairs of the whole island.
• gives Turkey's military the right to intervene once more, as it did in 1974 with disastrous consequences.

Fact: No free Cypriot in their right mind would accept such an agreement.

Examine and address these facts, or stop wasting my time.

insan wrote:What they r doing now is talking on unnegotiated parts of Annan Plan which essentialy was based on UN resolutions and agreements between the leaders of 2 ethnic groups of Cyprus.... so please stop pretending that i couldn't comprehend what u were talking abt...

and NEVER insult the people u have divergences... please...


insan, please. This is tiring.
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Postby Me Ed » Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:18 pm

insan wrote:
Me Ed wrote:Well after the British left, both Greece and Turkey played us both.

Whilst the GC have eliminated Greece from their affairs, the TCs are still, to this day being played by the Turks.


The political and economic circumstances provided u a better environment to officially or secretly regulate ur mutual relations, collabortaions and cooperations...

U succeded with uniting on ur national cause and national interests...

In Turkey and TRNC the political and economic circumstances have never provided a very good environment for 2 sides to regulate their mutual relations, collabortaions and coopertaions...

However, we have better relations with Turkey when compared to a decade ago...

Hilarious how you confuse relations with rule, the recent learned teachers protest said it all.
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Re: I sympathise with TCs but...

Postby YFred » Thu Dec 24, 2009 12:25 am

Malapapa wrote:...what do you want Cypriots in the free part of Cyprus to do?

TCs say they find themselves between a rock and a hard place, untrusting of the Republic of Cyprus, unhappy with accepting "minority status", unwilling to risk becoming "second class citizens in their own homeland".

In the north meanwhile Turkey is eroding their culture, their education and career prospects, their secular traditions, their salaries, their very right to call themselves Cypriots. This is all very sad.

But what do you expect Cypriots free from Turkey's iron grip to do?

• jeopardize hard fought freedoms secured by EU membership?
• give away their human right to properties belonging to them in the north?
• accept derogations to EU law which no other EU citizens would countenance?
• relinquish the principle of universal suffrage?
• open the door for Turkey to interfere in the domestic affairs of the whole island?
• give Turkey's military the right to intervene once more, as it did in 1974 with disastrous consequences?

Do you honestly expect any free Cypriot in their right mind to vote "Yes" to this?

No you do not, stop kidding yourself and others. If you did there would be no ifs and buts. Only but I on is on a backside.
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