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[halil]

Wednesday, January 6, 2010
By Dominic Freeman


Talat's Plan B

President Mehmet Ali Talat and the CTP have always claimed that it was because of former President Rauf Denktaş’ intransigence that a settlement could not be reached. Now, Talat is saying that because GCs have international recognition and EU membership they lack the motivation to compromise enough to establish a partnership based on political equality, similar to the one that GCs scrapped in 1963.

Talat now seems to want the EU and the international community to say that if the talks collapse because of the GCs then international recognition of the Turkish Cypriot state might be possible. Without this possibility he believes that GCs will never ever agree to a compromise. “They must be told what they might lose if they remain adamant,” he is quoted as saying during a closed-door meeting.

Has he suddenly realised that the only way forward is through the “equality of the two prospective partners” or is this a glimpse of his hinted at plan B? Immediately after this meeting Talat met with GC President Christofias for the first meeting of 2010 where he presented to him a set of proposals on “governance and power sharing” which are expected to be discussed during next week’s accelerated talks.

Among those proposals there was the issue of “cross-voting” for the election of the president and the vice president of the future partnership state. Cross-voting is the idea of the GCs but has up to now has been only partially acceptable to the TCs. According to some rumours Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu phoned Talat and told him to “go ahead” and present the controversial nine-point package on governance and power sharing to Christofias. Talat is supposed to have said: “but, we have not discussed the issue with Eroğlu yet … I do not want to have a public fight with him over the issue.” Davutoğlu phoned Eroğlu and informed him of the decision and was told by the PM that: “I am still against it, but, if political responsibility rests on Talat and you, ‘go ahead.’” He then phoned Talat for a second time to say, “Eroğlu is still against it, but will go ahead despite his opposition.”

Talat is apparently now saying “yes” to the GC’s governance and power-sharing proposals as long as GCs agree to give Turkish nationals free entry to the newly formed United Republic of Cyprus, freedom of movement throughout the island, freedom of settlement and freedom of property ownership in the same way EU nationals are? Because Christofias has previously said no to allowing Turks these freedoms you begin to wonder whether Plan B is to get the GCs to reject their own proposal for cross-voting and perhaps to force Christofias out of the talks so Talat can tell the world: “you see, Christofias has walked out of the process. They have to pay a price. Now it’s time to recognize the Turkish Cypriot state?”

Is this Talat’s plan B?

[Paphitis]

I think it is Talat's wet dream!

[AWE]

I think it is Talat's wet dream!

I think you are right.

[halil]

think about ? why Christofias needed to go ATHENS ?

[Paphitis]

think about ? why Christofias needed to go ATHENS ?

Erm...to have coffee with another head of state!

[Paphitis]

I think it is Talat's wet dream!

I think you are right.

Talat now seems to want the EU and the international community to say that if the talks collapse because of the GCs then international recognition of the Turkish Cypriot state might be possible. Without this possibility he believes that GCs will never ever agree to a compromise. “They must be told what they might lose if they remain adamant,” he is quoted as saying during a closed-door meeting.

Quite laughable!

[halil]

During yesterday’s meeting, President Talat explained the Turkish Side’s views to Mr Barroso just days before the launch of the intensive talks between the two sides in Cyprus. The President urged the European Union to take an initiative to encourage the Greek Cypriot Side towards a solution.

`We explained to Mr Barroso that we have brought new ideas
Mr Talat told reporters at the end of the meeting that the Turkish Side has brought new ideas about the intensive talks and that it is possible to settle the Cyprus problem if the Greek Cypriot Side shows the necessary flexibility.

`Mr Barrosso was very excited and told us that they will not begrudge their support to us` the President said, underlining the need for the European Union to do its utmost to help bring about a solution to the Cyprus problem.

The President also noted that the European Union should be more active to lift the international isolation on the TC People.

[boomerang]

Mr Barrosso was very excited

yeah he wet himself from the excitement..

then he says, and trying hard not to laugh...

the malakas said, underlining the need for the European Union to do its utmost to help bring about a solution to the Cyprus problem.

weren't they not long ago saying the cyprob belongs to the UN because the eu is biased?...someone should remind these morons as to what the eu stands for...democracy, human rights, rule of law and above all no apatheid system for cyprus...

you really need to question the level of retardation of these morons...

[Kikapu]

Wednesday, January 6, 2010
By Dominic Freeman


Talat's Plan B

President Mehmet Ali Talat and the CTP have always claimed that it was because of former President Rauf Denktaş’ intransigence that a settlement could not be reached. Now, Talat is saying that because GCs have international recognition and EU membership they lack the motivation to compromise enough to establish a partnership based on political equality, similar to the one that GCs scrapped in 1963.

Talat now seems to want the EU and the international community to say that if the talks collapse because of the GCs then international recognition of the Turkish Cypriot state might be possible. Without this possibility he believes that GCs will never ever agree to a compromise. “They must be told what they might lose if they remain adamant,” he is quoted as saying during a closed-door meeting.

Has he suddenly realised that the only way forward is through the “equality of the two prospective partners” or is this a glimpse of his hinted at plan B? Immediately after this meeting Talat met with GC President Christofias for the first meeting of 2010 where he presented to him a set of proposals on “governance and power sharing” which are expected to be discussed during next week’s accelerated talks.

Among those proposals there was the issue of “cross-voting” for the election of the president and the vice president of the future partnership state. Cross-voting is the idea of the GCs but has up to now has been only partially acceptable to the TCs. According to some rumours Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu phoned Talat and told him to “go ahead” and present the controversial nine-point package on governance and power sharing to Christofias. Talat is supposed to have said: “but, we have not discussed the issue with Eroğlu yet … I do not want to have a public fight with him over the issue.” Davutoğlu phoned Eroğlu and informed him of the decision and was told by the PM that: “I am still against it, but, if political responsibility rests on Talat and you, ‘go ahead.’” He then phoned Talat for a second time to say, “Eroğlu is still against it, but will go ahead despite his opposition.”

Talat is apparently now saying “yes” to the GC’s governance and power-sharing proposals as long as GCs agree to give Turkish nationals free entry to the newly formed United Republic of Cyprus, freedom of movement throughout the island, freedom of settlement and freedom of property ownership in the same way EU nationals are? Because Christofias has previously said no to allowing Turks these freedoms you begin to wonder whether Plan B is to get the GCs to reject their own proposal for cross-voting and perhaps to force Christofias out of the talks so Talat can tell the world: “you see, Christofias has walked out of the process. They have to pay a price. Now it’s time to recognize the Turkish Cypriot state?”

Is this Talat’s plan B?

Talat is saying that because GCs have international recognition and EU membership they lack the motivation to compromise enough to establish a partnership based on political equality, similar to the one that GCs scrapped in 1963.

God help us, because we have children in the leadership positions for the TCs with the above statements from Talat. Are there any real men in the north who can be seen as statesman anymore and that they have adopted to the 21st century already in order for them to reach a settlement based on Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws and the EU Principles.??

Talat is apparently now saying “yes” to the GC’s governance and power-sharing proposals as long as GCs agree to give Turkish nationals free entry to the newly formed United Republic of Cyprus, freedom of movement throughout the island, freedom of settlement and freedom of property ownership in the same way EU nationals are? Because Christofias has previously said no to allowing Turks these freedoms you begin to wonder whether Plan B is to get the GCs to reject their own proposal for cross-voting and perhaps to force Christofias out of the talks so Talat can tell the world: “you see, Christofias has walked out of the process. They have to pay a price. Now it’s time to recognize the Turkish Cypriot state?”

Hello, Mr Talat, the Cyprus settlement is meant to be by Cypriots and for the Cypriots and not for the Turkish Nationals.!

Talat now seems to want the EU and the international community to say that if the talks collapse because of the GCs then international recognition of the Turkish Cypriot state might be possible. Without this possibility he believes that GCs will never ever agree to a compromise. “They must be told what they might lose if they remain adamant,” he is quoted as saying during a closed-door meeting.

What the hell is Talat smoking for God sake.!

Yes Mr. Talat, you tell the International Community and the EU that, should the GCs insists on a settlement based on Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws and EU Principles, which happens to be the same policies that the western world supports by the way (I think Talat must have forgotten that little piece of information), we ("trnc") will make sure that the talks will fail just because we want the policies of the 1960's for a settlement, therefore they should punish the GCs by recognising the "trnc"(or the threat of it, just like during the Annan Plan when circus games that were being played) to force the GCs to a settlement based on a such racists policies.!

I think Talat can count on Turkey's support for his "PLAN B" plan.!

1 out of 180 nations is a start.!

Now I can't wait to read the "we have options" by the "trnc", if these talk should fail, after reading the above comical piece for a "Plan B" by Talat.!

[boomerang]

is it any wonder no one takes them seriously?...

i bet barosso was looking at his watch...