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[BirKibrisli]

Vaughan/larnacaman ....you do not get it do you???? You have to read between the lines...let me help...there will NOT be a solution to Cyprob...When the "balance of power" changes then the occupied North will be liberated by force of arms...This will make sure not much of the present infrastructure stays operational in both the North and the South...Not much of the present buildings will be left standing either...When the cloud settles and the GC side is victorious the whole world will pitch in and rebuild the whole of Cyprus from the scratch...Now which part of this dont you understand????

That would be a very sad day Birk .... surely you have a bit more trust in the Cypriot leadership to act a little more coherently

But, dear Andrea,there are those who are prepared to wait, forever it seems,for the "balance of power" to change to have their little day on the battlefield with Turkey...What and who do you think would be left standing if it comes to that...???I think you'd better have a word with our fanatical compatriots,see if you can put some sense into their pretty heads...Before they lose it/them altogether...

[larnacaman]

BirKibrisli,

If what your saying came to pass about armed conflict, then i'm afraid if it is the G/C that started it, there would be NO EU intervention, and it would be a Turk victory!! Your sloppy military wouldn't stand a chance against the well trained Turkish army...

It wouldn't take them long either, to capture areas upto, and maybe past Limassol. Then where will you be?? Bleating on here i expect, trying to convince everyone that it's all the Turks fault, They didn't like us trying to take back the North by force!!! Just think about the losses you will have suffered in both lives and land area lost, ...and what was on that land area.... Ooooops ...Larnaca airport, Gone, ....Nicosia, ....gov, stock market, and just about everything else ...Gone!!! Yeah a real intelligent move that would turn out to be!!!!

Anyway back to the REAL world, ....No suggestions yet, on how your going to finance this reconstruction work???

[vaughanwilliams]

BirKibrisli,

If what your saying came to pass about armed conflict, then i'm afraid if it is the G/C that started it, there would be NO EU intervention, and it would be a Turk victory!! Your sloppy military wouldn't stand a chance against the well trained Turkish army...

It wouldn't take them long either, to capture areas upto, and maybe past Limassol. Then where will you be?? Bleating on here i expect, trying to convince everyone that it's all the Turks fault, They didn't like us trying to take back the North by force!!! Just think about the losses you will have suffered in both lives and land area lost, ...and what was on that land area.... Ooooops ...Larnaca airport, Gone, ....Nicosia, ....gov, stock market, and just about everything else ...Gone!!! Yeah a real intelligent move that would turn out to be!!!!

Anyway back to the REAL world, ....No suggestions yet, on how your going to finance this reconstruction work???

I think, if it ever came to pass, that once the enormity of the project became apparent, there would be an element in the south that would be happy to leave the TRNC economy to idle along behind them. I am thinking, in particular, of those who don't have a claim to land/property here, but are taxpayers who would have to dig deeper than ever before.

[larnacaman]

Vaughan,

Your thoughts are right on the button, that's exactly what would happen, many would have to start actually paying tax too ...lol!!!.
It's mostly those with claim to land that bleats so much on these forums.

What they can't seem to grasp is that at the moment they have a pretty decent chance of reclaiming. But these fools will cut off there noses to spite there face, and end up with no chance.... not in there lifetime anyway!!! But it will be all Your Fault , and everyone else's too... They will never see that they did it to themselves, ....not in a million years!!!!

[vaughanwilliams]

Vaughan,

Your thoughts are right on the button, that's exactly what would happen, many would have to start actually paying tax too ...lol!!!.
It's mostly those with claim to land that bleats so much on these forums.

What they can't seem to grasp is that at the moment they have a pretty decent chance of reclaiming. But these fools will cut off there noses to spite there face, and end up with no chance.... not in there lifetime anyway!!! But it will be all Your Fault , and everyone else's too... They will never see that they did it to themselves, ....not in a million years!!!!

Spot on!

[Piratis]

Vaughan,

Your thoughts are right on the button, that's exactly what would happen, many would have to start actually paying tax too ...lol!!!.
It's mostly those with claim to land that bleats so much on these forums.

What they can't seem to grasp is that at the moment they have a pretty decent chance of reclaiming. But these fools will cut off there noses to spite there face, and end up with no chance.... not in there lifetime anyway!!! But it will be all Your Fault , and everyone else's too... They will never see that they did it to themselves, ....not in a million years!!!!

Spot on!

You invade Cyprus, oppress the Cypriot people, take our lands, and then you say that we did to ourselves? If we were left to do it on ourselves there wouldn't be any Turks or any other unwelcome foreigners on our island to begin with, and therefore none of the problems that these invaders created and continue to create to our island would exist.

[larnacaman]

Piratis,

Yep, everybody's fault but your own right ??

The TC's have been around on Cyprus far too long, for you say they have no right to be here. Probably many of them, a dammed site longer than most of the GC's....

Funny, everyone has lot's to say about everything else on this thread, ....But still no idea's on paying for the Norths reconstruction program!! ....Strange!!

[Piratis]

Piratis,

Yep, everybody's fault but your own right ??

The TC's have been around on Cyprus far too long, for you say they have no right to be here. Probably many of them, a dammed site longer than most of the GC's....

Funny, everyone has lot's to say about everything else on this thread, ....But still no idea's on paying for the Norths reconstruction program!! ....Strange!!

Nobody said that TCs should leave from Cyprus. But the Turks never stopped bringing their troops and settlers to Cyprus, this something that continues as we speak. They continue to create a problem to Cyprus today just like they did in the past. What is our fault? That we want to rule freely and democratically our own island?

And I never said that it is "everybodies fault" the ones who occupy part of Cyprus against the will of the Cypriot people are very specific, and not "everybody". Mostly Turkey and to a lesser degree the UK. That is not "everybody" is it?

About the reconstruction of the north we already said everything that can be said. It is our own land and when it is returned to us we would be the first ones who want to reconstruct it and benefit from the returns of our investment. We did it with the south part of Cyprus once we were allowed to rule this part freely and democratically, and we will do the same with the north part once it is liberated.

[larnacaman]

Piratis,

Piratis wrote:.... ''Despite this our tourism is already doing better this year already.''

Hmmmm...... What tourists are you talking about here, Those from Nicosia packing Protaras out?? I don't think those count That's just redistributing home money. The tourists you should be interested in, are those that fly into your two airports!! Your doing better this year?? Really?? Take a look round your tourist areas and say that again, but without the smile on your face..
Take a look at the tourist car hire, winter storage areas. Yep your right there still almost full. Every single year you fall for the same old bullshit about how tourism is UP!! Doesn't any of you, see that numbers are down, that more and more tourist type hotels are closing or already closed!! ....Not exactly rocket science, believing your own eyes surely??

[larnacaman]

Piratis,

Saying you will do this and will do that is one thing, and i'm absolutly sure, they are the intentions and hopes of all GC's. ....But, and it's an enormous BUT, You just don't have the resources to do those things, not even with the EU's help and it's grants. If you couple that with the corruption that goes on in your government circles, your in for a real roller-coaster ride.... Don't, bury your heads in the sand this time, you just cannot afford doing that on this occasion. Whatever it eventually costs, it's going to take years to pay off on this work, you, and many others may not even be around to see it's conclusion.... But it'll be you and the others here that will be paying the vast majority of that final bill!!!

Vaughan, was not trying to be funny or disrespectful, in his initial thread post, ...he was trying to make a point, that has been somewhat overlooked in the past, but has implications that will place serious financial burdens on Cyprus as a whole, and for many many, years to come....