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Postby DigenisAkritas » Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:01 pm

A quick question to Muslims, no offence intended, why has it been a key component of Muslim History to destroy Churches and put Mosques in their place? I was just wondering because I am interested in knowing the explanation behind such acts. Also, no offence again, but could you explain to me these verses?

Qur’an 9:5 “Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war.”

Qur’an 8:39 “So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world).”

Ishaq:324 “He said, ‘Fight them so that there is no more
rebellion, and religion, all of it, is for Allah only. Allah must have no rivals.’”


Ishaq:587 “Our onslaught will not be a weak faltering affair. We shall fight as long as we live. We will fight until you turn to Islam, humbly seeking refuge. We will fight not caring whom we meet. We will fight whether we destroy ancient holdings or newly gotten gains. We have mutilated every opponent. We have driven them violently before us at the command of Allah and Islam. We will fight until our religion is established. And we will plunder them, for they must suffer disgrace.”

Qur’an 9:123 “Fight the unbelievers around you, and let them find harshness in you.”

Tabari IX:69 “Killing disbelievers is a small matter to us.”

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Postby devil » Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:43 pm

I believe that it is totally inappropriate to pose questions that are clearly intended to promote religious divisions or hatred in any forum on this site.

Please do not fall into the trap of trying to reply to the questions themselves.
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Postby brother » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:20 pm

Because I studied it and saw it was a danger to mankind.


I bought this topic as its better suited here, so what gives you the impression that its dangerous to man kind?
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Postby Turkey (( * » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:21 pm

Well you don't only live in this World, there are 6 billion people in this world and it might matter more to them so just shut up!! And if you don't like religion, why do you bring it into every single topic!! There are 4-5 topics that you have directed into hatred of religion!!
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Postby DigenisAkritas » Mon Jul 25, 2005 4:42 pm

Turkey (( * wrote:Well you don't only live in this World, there are 6 billion people in this world and it might matter more to them so just shut up!! And if you don't like religion, why do you bring it into every single topic!! There are 4-5 topics that you have directed into hatred of religion!!

No, I hate Islam, make out the difference for God Sake, it doesn't mean I hate Muslims, I have Muslim friends (but they are Muslim in name only), it means I hate the Ideology itself.
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Postby Turkey (( * » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:28 pm

Make out the difference or not, you are still disrespecting peoples' religion!!
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Postby DigenisAkritas » Mon Jul 25, 2005 5:39 pm

Turkey (( * wrote:Make out the difference or not, you are still disrespecting peoples' religion!!


So what? It's not a fundamental human right not have your views subjected to critical analysis. If that's your interpretation, fine. But I will continue to work again lies and deceits.
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Postby Turkey (( * » Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:22 pm

Do whatever you want I don't give a shit anyway!! Just trying to put you in the right track...Oh by the way, I suggest you don't talk about your views face to face, with a Muslim, because you are just disrespecting his religion, and don't blame him if something happens!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby DigenisAkritas » Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:29 pm

Turkey (( * wrote:Do whatever you want I don't give a shit anyway!! Just trying to put you in the right track...Oh by the way, I suggest you don't talk about your views face to face, with a Muslim, because you are just disrespecting his religion, and don't blame him if something happens!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


I know quite well what you are referring to and we all know the basis of it. Muslims have proven themselves quite capable assasins and murderers up to this day, remember Theo Van Gogh.
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Postby Turkey (( * » Mon Jul 25, 2005 6:37 pm

So if the Christian people know that normal Muslims are innocent and the Christians are soooooooo calm and peaceful then why did they do this??

In the hours after the bombings in London, the backlash began. Innocent people, as in the bombings, were targeted in what appear to be racially motivated attacks.

* 13 July 2005: Guardian reports that a schoolboy has been attacked in the West Country. (Guardian 13.7.05)
* 12 July 2005: A 16-year-old Asian boy suffers head and facial injuries after an unprovoked attack by a White man. The young boy was walking with an 11-year-old friend on Leith Walk in Edinburgh when they were racially abused and then attacked by the White man. (BBC News 13.7.05)
* 12 July 2005: Independent reports that there have been acts of arson and criminal damage in mosques in Leeds and Telford.
* 12 July 2005: Guardian reports that the BNP has produced a leaflet for a by-election in Barking, east London, with images from the London bombings and the words 'maybe now it's time to start listening to the BNP'. (Guardian 12.7.05)
* 12 July 2005: Glasgow Herald reports that the door of the Pakistan consulate in Bradford was damaged after an arson attack; a 27-year-old man was later arrested. (Glasgow Herald 12.7.05)
* 12 July 2005: BBC News reports that Bournemouth Islamic centre has received three death threats since the London bombings. (BBC News 12.7.05)
* 11 July 2005: The home of a Muslim family is torched in a suspected arson attack in Torquay. The family are not at home when the fire is started.
* 10 July 2005: 48-year-old Kamal Raza Butt, a Pakistani man who is visiting friends and family in Nottingham, is set upon by a gang of White youths. He is allegedly called 'Taliban' and then punched to the ground and dies later in hospital. Two 16-year-old youths are charged with his manslaughter, seven others are baailed pending further inquiries. (BBC News 13.7.05)
* 10 July 2005: The Islamic Centre in Rose Lane, Norwich, is vandalised in a racist attack; four windows are damaged. Police arrest two women at the scene, aged 23 and 26, who are later released on bail. (Eastern Daily Press 13.7.05)
* 10 July 2005: A 20-year-old Muslim student from the United Arab Emirates is racially abused, chased and threatened with a knife by three men in the Charminster area of Bournemouth. (BBC News 13.7.05)
* 9 July 2005: Independent reports that a fire at a Sikh temple in Armley, Leeds, is being treated as suspicious; Kent police are investigating two assaults on Muslim men in Dartford.
* 9 July 2005: Six windows are broken at a mosque in Easton, Bristol. (Muslim News 10.7.05)
* 9 July 2005: Abdul Munim is rescued by fire-fighters from the Shajala mosque in Birkenhead, Liverpool, after two White men pour petrol through its letter box and set it alight at 12.35am. The mosque is badly damaged. A 27-year-old man is arrested. (Independent 12.7.05)
* 9 July 2005: The windows at Mazhirul Uloom Educational and Cultural Institution, east London, are smashed. (Muslim News 10.7.05)
* 8 July 2005: Al Madina Jamia mosque in Leeds is petrol bombed at 2am; it causes minor damage and no one is hurt. (Muslim News 10.7.05)
* 8 July 2005: Stones are thrown at a mosque in Totterdown, Bristol. No damage is caused and no one is hurt. (Muslim News 10.7.05)
* 7 July 2005: Two bottles containing an accelerant are thrown through the windows of a Sikh temple in Belvedere, Kent. The bottles do not ignite. Police arrest five men in the Bexleyheath area two days after the attack. (Greenwich Mercury 13.7.05 )
* 7 July 2005: An Asian woman from Hayes, Middlesex, reports an attempted arson attack after she finds petrol has been poured through her door. (Independent 11.7.05)
* 7 July 2005: An Asian family from Southall report an attempted arson attack. (Independent 11.7.05)
* 7 July 2005: Sha Jalal mosque and the Pakistan Community and Cultural Centre in Edinburgh are daubed in racist graffiti. (Edinburgh Evening News 13.7.05)

Now tell me if Christians are peaceful, Palestanians killed everyday by Israelis tell me that Jews are peaceful, Iraquies killed by Americans tell me that Christians are peaceful, Afghan people killed by Americans tell me Christians are peaceful!!! DO NOT TELL ME THAT THE MUSLIMS HAVE NO RIGHT TO RESPOND AN ATTACK WHERE AT LEAST 10 MUSLIMS ARE KILLED BY OTHER RELIGIONS EVERYDAY!!!! (i am not saying this violence is right but I am saying all of the religions are to blame!!!)
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