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[2fan]

EROLZ

When I said that "we will sort through these problems" I meant that we will address and solve these problems as a civilization..eventually. Why are you so defensinsive?

I was not trying to be defensive as far as I am concerned. I was trying to establish what / who you meant as 'we'. I guess I did make a guess that by we you meant londoners / brits - hence my explaination of my own backgroud.

All I was trying to do was to ease your pain because I saw that you were deeply affected by the events unfolding in the UK.

And for the attempt I thank you though it's not pain I feel but concern. However as I said before simply being told 'dont worry about it' does not ease my concern. You sentiments are noted and appreciated but I hope you can also appreciate my persective?

From now on you will not get any sympathy from me.

That is your choice I guess. I was not and am not looking for sympathy - but I thank you for the previous expressions of such you have made towards me even if there has been some misunderstanding re your intent by me. I am simply discussing the issue.

Moreover, you seem to have a negative attitude toward mainland Turks getting involved in the politics regarding your precious little island. Don't forget that it was the mainland Turks that invaded the island to protect your ass.

I do not know how you have got this impression from my posts?

Furthermore, I wonder how many CGs do not speak Greek. You're a TC and do not speak Turkish. You should get busy on that subject.

I do not know how many GC do not speak Greek. However I am a citizen of the TRNC and there is no requirment on me to speak Turkish. I will learn Turkish as and when is conveint for me to do so.

I extended my hand to you when you came up with the idea to clean up Greek cemeteries in the north and you shot me down citing that it is an Cypriot problem to be solved by Cypriots. You assumed that I have no interests in Cyprus.

And I thanked all who showed such support as far as I recall. Again I do not know how you got the impression that you express above? As far as I am concerend when I finally get this cemetaries project going support from anyone will be welcome - regadless of race, ethnicity or nationality. To me that is the whole point of the idea - to show that we are humans first and as such share many values in common and can work togeather at this level regardless of politics.

I do not know how we have got to have so much misundertanding between us but for any part I have played in this misunderstanding I appologise.

Who died and made you king?

No comment.

You'll be a good politician....I just hope not in Cyprus or between Turkey and Greece.

[Sarah McD]

The police made a complete arse of it - as usual!

They followed the guy from his house, let him get on a bus and followed him to the tube station. WHY did they let a suspected sucicide bomber get on a bus, they blew one of those up on 7th July did they not? The police in the UK are like tits on a bull - useless!

As for the NF attacking Muslims and mosques - what do the muslim extremists expect to happen? They promote violence on innocent people, they have to expect some kind of retaliation.

The NF are evil, I'd never argue that point - but not as evil as the muslim extremists that are blowing up London, and the rest of the innocent world!

[erolz]

erolz - Good day to you,

And good day to you.

I have very briefly scanned over what we have written whilst preparing for another days work & your final points including a) b) & c) lead me to believe we are all of the same opinion to a certain degree but only perhaps looking at it from a different perspective.

Often the case in my experience of forums. In such electronicaly mediated forms of communiactions without all the redunant channels of information (tone of voice, expression, body language etc etc) such apparent disagreements that are actualy more like agreement frequently occur. Just take the example of between myself and 2fan in this thread.

I come with an operational background where decisions are, by necessity, made on the spot which at times determines life or death. I do not want to dramatise the fact but it happens. Fortunatly for me I have been right up to when I retired so do not have the nightmares that some do.
As humans you will understand that you and I probably feel much the same notwithstanding our backgrounds.
Best regards

I appreciate this and your perspective is one of value to me as it is different to mine. I have no wish to 'villify' the indivduals involved in this action as I hope I have made clear.

[erolz]

Thank you for pointing out the obvious.

and here I am afarid I am going to be defensive and off topic Sorry.

I do not speak Turkish. This is just a statement of fact. I can say hello and thank you and good health and swear and that's pretty much it. It may be obvious to you that when I say I can not speak Turkish I am being less that truthful but all I can say is that I am not.

I think erolz is in denial! Don't forget your roots.

I am not in denial about either my Britishness or my Cypriotness. That I do not speak Turkish has in my view nothing to do with denial of my roots and is merely a function of where and how I was born and grew up. Certainly I could make more effort to learn Turkish but to me not doing so is not a function of denial of my roots / hertiage but off my personal laziness and time.

Again appologise for both the 'defensive' nature of these posts and their 'off topicness' as well. It's just when you feel under attack and you also feel that the attacks are unfair it's hard not to want to defend oneself.