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[brother]

Well said Chrisswirl, and the point is while he is in office i do not believe that tassos will ever try and do any negotiations with any intention of solving the cyprus problem but some people are so gullable to his lies that they believe anything that comes out of his mouth.

[brother]

out of interest

when is the next gc election due?

If memory serves right its another 2 years away.

[cannedmoose]

out of interest

when is the next gc election due?

If memory serves right its another 2 years away.

It depends which one. The House elections are due to take place next May, Presidential elections I believe are next due in 2008.

[Turkey (( *]

Hi cannedmoose. I deduce that from his lack of initiative in solving the problem. He seems more preocupied with things like bringing illegally Turkish friendly politicians from the US for example... Like that is going to solve anything.

So what is brother's reason saying tha Mr. Papadopoulos wants partition when the truth is exactly the opposite!!!!!!

Yeah let me guess what you are going to say next: US is illegal too, because it listens to TRNC. Get a life!!

[Viewpoint]

Well said Chrisswirl, and the point is while he is in office i do not believe that tassos will ever try and do any negotiations with any intention of solving the cyprus problem but some people are so gullable to his lies that they believe anything that comes out of his mouth.

I also agree with you both and have stated something similar in another thread, he will manipulate GCs to stay in power and they will swallow everyword....we move further and further away from unification and closer to recognized partition...

[fi]

If Papadopolous turned around and asked for equal negotiations with Talat, Talat would jump at the oppourtunity. I'm sure that Talat was geniune in his support for the Annan Plan, where as we all know Papadopolous' greater intentions. Fact is, Papadopolous didn't negotiate on the plan, but then he turned around and said it wasn't good enough; he should have made it acceptable earlier!

He wasn't let to negotiate!!!! Papadopoulos was let to believe he cannot ask for changes that change the general idea of the plan so he brought in requests for changes to facilitate the working of the plan beneficial to both GC and TC. All of his changes were declined!!!! Then Turkey came with requests out of the spirit of the plan and all of them were accepted!!!!!

I'm sure that Mr Papadopoulos would jump to the occasion too if Talat wasn't a puppet for Turkey. Do you think that if GC and TC agree Turkey will let us have our way? You are dilusional. Also I wish Talat and the TC would request direct talks with the ROC.
Why doesn't he do it if he? Because he doesn't want a solution.
Why does he spend his energy on matters like bringing puppet politicians to an illegal airport? Because he wants division.

As for the Anan plan it's the people that said No and that is what matters! And I think the people made a very informed decision. I don't think that any of the supporters of the plan (i.e. US, UK) would accept if they were in our shoes.

I think Mr Papadopoulos has shown too many times (like all previous presidents) his absolute commitment to solve the problem. That is why he is president, and you must know that the main job of the president of ROC, while it remains under Turkish occupation, is to solve the Cyprus problem.

Lets not forget who torpedoed every attempt for solution so far..... "Mr. No" - Denktash. While the ROC was saying Yes to everything, the TC were saying No to everything. Now that a really bad plan that didn't solve the problem (to my opinion and the majorities opinion) was brought to vote we said our first no. Well our fellow Europeans are coming to realise now what the plan really meant but you keep saying that you said yes and we said no. We've been saying yes for 30 years now!

In any case the Anan plan is dead, democracy and the people have spoken and not a president! A new plan that really solves the problem must be found!

Finally I think and you will see that in the future Mr Talat is proving out to be the next Denktash (I hope I'm wrong but it doesn't seem so).

[fi]

Ohhhh and wasn't Mr Talat voted by the 150,000 illegal Turkish settlers that are now an absolute majority compared to only less than 50,000 Turkish Cypriots left! Who's interests is he going to protect?? the minorities??

[brother]

Should Tassos meet Talat for dinner?
By Elias Hazou


THE GOVERNMENT coalition was yesterday split over the prospect of an informal meeting between the leaders of the two communities, following a week of media speculation and mixed signals emitted by politicians.

Last week, Turkish Cypriot paper Kibris reported that Christofias was brokering the meeting between Papadopoulos and Talat at his country house. That would be in response to an invitation by Talat to Christofias for a meeting in the north.

According to the reports, Christofias would be hosting a dinner for the two leaders, and the meeting was described as “social in nature”.

A saga then unfolded as Talat seemed to confirm something was on the cards; but then Christofias declined to comment further, as government officials said there was no way the two leaders could meet except under UN auspices. By the end of last week, the affair seemed to be in limbo.

However, speaking on Astra radio yesterday, Papadopoulos said he had no objection to an informal meeting with Talat, so long as it did not touch on the substance of the Cyprus problem.

Papadopoulos added he was not “dogmatic” about such an arrangement.
But coalition partners DIKO and EDEK yesterday came out strongly against the meeting, saying it would play into the hands of Talat by lending legitimacy to his position as the head of the breakaway regime.

EDEK boss Yiannakis Omirou said the meeting, were it to happen, would be
”a mistake”, while DIKO’s no.2 Nicos Cleanthous warned against serving Talat’s agenda.

“Let us not forget that Mr Talat is effectively the enforcer of Ankara’s policy on Cyprus,” Cleanthous said.

“So what’s the use?” he wondered.

Christofias reacted to the statements, saying he was saddened by the militant opposition to the meeting and suggesting that certain quarters wanted to nip it in the bud.

He expressed disappointment at “these aphorisms and extreme reaction exhibited by some party figures,” adding that “this sort of behaviour kills any hope for a resumption of talks.

“It looks like some people are suited by the existence of a confrontation,” Christofias said, alluding to the fact that relations between the two communities’ leaders have been less than ideal since the referendum last April.

The AKEL chief also protested that an unofficial meeting could do no harm and might “break the ice”, as he put it.

“But in Cyprus we’re afraid of our own shadow,” he lamented.

And AKEL spokesman Andros Kyprianou argued that the meet would be part of the drive to improve the climate between the two communities, a policy agreed by the National Council.

The administration yesterday tried to distance itself from the debate, in an apparent bid to contain the row brewing between pro-government parties.

“The matter has been exhausted. I have no further comment to make, nor shall I give any more attention to it,” was the laconic statement by Government Spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides.

On March 9, Christofias travelled to the occupied areas to meet Talat at his Republican Turkish Party (CTP) headquarters, the first time he had visited the north.


Papadopoulos and Talat have never met face-to-face in an official capacity, although it has emerged that the President conducted “secret dinners” with Turkish Cypriot ‘Foreign Minister’ Serdar Denktash shortly before and after last year’s referenda.








Now this is what i am talking about, so tell me 'Fi' why is your president meeting in secret with a known person who wants partition, maybe he fancies him huh.

[Bananiot]

Papadopoulos even told lies about his secret meeting with Denktash Junior. He tried to make it as a meeting that was not secret, under the light of the sun, so to speak. He said that they met at a well known tavern in Nicosia called "Plaka" but then Denktash denied this and put the record straight. They met in the villa of Papadopoulos called Strakka.

Brother, if the agenda was to bury any plan for the solution, I assure you he would have no problem meeting with the devil, let alone Talat.

[detailer]

Papadapoulos ıs constantly rejecting to meet Talat even in a social context. How can you expect Talat to approach to such a mentality with a positive attitude?