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Re: Why Turkey is the wise choice to handle Cypriot oil/gas.

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:13 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:- However, YOUR proposal is NOT destined to achieve our desires for all the shortcomings described in the thread.

Our desires? :? :lol: Since when are you and I in the same group? :?


Sorry, I mistook you for someone who does not want to see the Island under Turkish occupation for evermore.

Carry on doing deals with Turkey, then ... :roll:

Look I'll be frank with you Oracle... I enjoy the lunch we do once a year or so and I do consider you a great friend, but politically we're from different planets! :)
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Re: Why Turkey is the wise choice to handle Cypriot oil/gas.

Postby Jerry » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:09 pm

It's wrong that Turkey should be allowed to gobble up Cypriot fuel but it is a price worth paying to get the invader off the island. I'm sure an agreement could be structured that benefits both Cyprus and Turkey, for instance the ROC could sell the gas to Turkey at a large discount and that country could sell it on to Europe at a profit. In such a case it would be in no ones interest to turn off the tap.

Perhaps it was meant to be this way - nature steps in to resolve a dispute that is beyond man.
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Re: Why Turkey is the wise choice to handle Cypriot oil/gas.

Postby Hermes » Thu Jan 26, 2012 6:48 pm

If there was no occupation and Turkey was a normal democratic friendly country then using Turkey as a route for Cypriot gas would probably be an option we would consider.

If the smell of our gas encourages Turkey to see that its belligerence on Cyprus is damaging to Turkish interests and it needs to withdraw from Cyprus - for its own good - then truly gas would be a blessing. I have no problems with using the gas finds to make Turkey see sense. That it needs to get out of Cyprus - and there are benefits from doing so.
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Re: Why Turkey is the wise choice to handle Cypriot oil/gas.

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Jan 26, 2012 9:08 pm

Jerry wrote:It's wrong that Turkey should be allowed to gobble up Cypriot fuel but it is a price worth paying to get the invader off the island. I'm sure an agreement could be structured that benefits both Cyprus and Turkey, for instance the ROC could sell the gas to Turkey at a large discount and that country could sell it on to Europe at a profit. In such a case it would be in no ones interest to turn off the tap.

Perhaps it was meant to be this way - nature steps in to resolve a dispute that is beyond man.


very much a good idea; and vise verse, so that Cyprus becomes a buyer of Russian gaz when it is suitable as well.

...there are natural events, which in science are proven by their repeatability. even though it is possible for us to build any machine we desire, nothing has replaced our Mother earth, without the plenitude she still expresses we cannot survive. we have continued the "Greek"/"Turk" debate to the point where, by repeating it our success is proving as a premise that it fails. sooner i hope than later, as this island's dwellers, the dwellers will see themselves (not as Persons) as Stewards first, to care for all its living relics, the wealth of a Heritance much older, and the beauty of its living creatures and natural resources; as well as the money which can be made by living within a Bicommunal Principal: for our betterment we represent ourselves, as Persons (a part of an electorate), as well as Citizens, as Individuals to a State. if we straighten our own house in order it would bode well, this choice as a deal.

... 'scuse me if you don't want to live in a Unitary State if it also has National Assemblies for the Identities that we choose to promote. i'll fart if i have to, but no need to bring the hose for the moment we wait, there is no pipeline (or enough gaz). Lebanon, and Syria, (Iran and Iraq) and why not Egypt, (talking about repeatability again) of course Greece and Israel must agree, then Turkey.
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Re: Why Turkey is the wise choice to handle Cypriot oil/gas.

Postby kurupetos » Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:43 pm

It seems the prophecy will be fulfilled. :D
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Re: Why Turkey is the wise choice to handle Cypriot oil/gas.

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:08 pm

There's no fooling our Minister of Foreign affairs when it comes to Turkey's usefulness as a "business partner":

Famagusta-Gazette wrote:The Minister noted in particular the verbal assault of Turkish leaders during the start of exploratory drilling in the Cypriot EEZ last September as well as threats and provocations by Turkish warships and aircraft and illegal seismic surveying and seabed mapping, carried out in blatant violation of Cypriot sovereign rights.

“Turkey is not just violating international law” but behaves “in line with the rules of international relations which belong to another century, long before international law was put in place to guide relations between states,” the Minister noted.

On Turkey’s EU accession negotiations, the Minster remarked that the process remains frozen, because Ankara is failing to meet its commitments to the European Union.


Pleased to see the women of this country have more sense than the men.
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Re: Why Turkey is the wise choice to handle Cypriot oil/gas.

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:57 pm

...beyond Cyprus, there is her "Continental Shelf"; this is the piri priri and the warships.

you are correct GIGirl, and there is the larger picture to confront us as well, it is not just all of Cyprus, it is a part of Syria, Palestine, Greece and even parts of Israel and Lebanon (and that is just the southern flank). either way, Turkey must be contained. She is the broker for (half) the world's Heroin, is this gaz that much different? just like the Ottomans these "Turks" will take a cut to traffic goods; it ends their belligerance because they'll enjoy their bean counting, and it ends their need to be the plunderers, it is organised, it is very big, and the risks to the precious sea can be minimalised.
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Re: Why Turkey is the wise choice to handle Cypriot oil/gas.

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:15 pm

Still waiting for some of the Spartan warriors to comment on this plan including…

Byron, pappy_sydney, Sotos, wyoming cowboy, Piratis, etc…
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