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[bill cobbett]

So you're scanning a doctored copy for us...???

[Lordo]

So you're scanning a doctored copy for us...???

when i find it it will be the original dear man. don't you worry.

but what about the second grave yard speech.

His view was shared by the Foreign Minister, Polykarpos Yorgadjis: "The is no place in Cyprus for anyone who is not Greek."

how about that. now you are going to tell me yogadjis never said that right.

[bill cobbett]

So you're scanning a doctored copy for us...???

when i find it it will be the original dear man. don't you worry.

but what about the second grave yard speech.

So you haven't got it...!!! WTF did you make out you had it...!!!

Lordo me dear... the cyprusconflict.net site is as neutral as you'll find. It's been put together as a conflict resolution resource.

[Lordo]

of course i don't bloody have it. where did I claim to have it. original my dear friend. and it will be found.


fancy that. just sent him a message. will be very interesting to see what his response his.

[Lordo]

just to explain to my friend bill why the comment is not in the 76 edition and yet it was in the 74 edition.

it was removed.

now i wonder why/ any body knows what kind of pressure these people were put under by big mak/

search for his speeches continue. strange how few speeches makarios made during this time.

[Lordo]

On 9th April 1963 Makarios told The Times "The Union of Cyprus with Greece is an inspiration always cherished within the hearts of all Greek Cypriots. It is impossible to put an end to this by establishing a Republic."


how about this statement.

[Lordo]

O.F.: Is this really what worries you. Beatitude? I mean the tragedy of the Turkish Cypriots? It doesn't seem to me that so far they've been the object of much concern. They've been treated like second class citizens and . . .

M: That's not true! It=s not true! Though they=re a minority, they=ve had a lot of privileges, and they've behaved as though they represented the majority. We haven't been the ones to mistreat them, it was their Turkish leaders, by forcing them to live in separate villages, blackmailing them, keeping them from co-operating with us even economically, and from progressing. They didn't even let them do business with us, or help us to develop tourism. They weren't our victims, they were their victims. Nobody can deny that a true democracy, and a good one, exists in Cyprus. In their newspapers the Turks could abuse me and insult me as much as they liked. They could come to see me at the archbishop's palace whenever they liked. The trouble is they were obliged to come secretly, without their leaders knowing it. In mixed villages we had no problem living together, in the past and at the time of the Greco-Turkish war as well. What you say isn=t true.


apparently makrios thought it was not them who mistreated the tcs in the 60s. it was their own leaders. so yorgadjis and sampson and the rest of his henchmen did not kill a single innocent tc. no gc cypriot police picked up anybody never to be seen again.

and there are people on this forum who actually believe this. right/

[Lordo]

this is the law of enosis. and you boys insist that the constituion could not worked and the gc actually wanted to make it work but it was the tcs who left of their own accord. no threat from anybody in 1963.

on June 26, 1967, the Greek Cypriot House of Representatives (which consisted only of the Greek Cypriot members of the former House and continued to legislate illegally) passed the following resolution: “No matter what difficulties and hardships are encountered, the struggle being waged with the full support of the Hellenic world will not be terminated until the final goal (namely Enosis) is successfully attained.

[Lordo]

In 1967, General Grivas, who had returned to Cyprus after a period of self-imposed exile in
Greece, and had assumed the title of commander in chief of all Greek and Greek Cypriot
forces on the island, launched a new wave of attacks on Turkish Cypriots villages. On
November 14 and 15 alone, more than 30 Turkish Cypriots were killed, including the three
sons of an elderly couple and an 80 – year- old man who was burned alive by being wrapped
in a gasoline-soaked blanket and set on fire. But again, the world was willing to believe what
the Greek Cypriot leaders told everyone, namely that these were minor intercommunal
disturbances instigated by Turkish Cypriot agitators. Once more, UNFICYP (the United
Nations peacekeeping force) failed to save any Turkish Cypriot lives, and it was only
Turkey’s threats of intervention that finally put end to the slaughter of defenseless villagers.


this in the same year of that law. but no gcs did not harm anybody. they were trying to make the constitution work.

[Lordo]

is this true.

In March 1977, Makarios further astonished the world by telling a Danish correspondent: “I
regret many things and most of all Enosis on my part”


oh well perhaps there is a place for him outside the gates of heaven after all.