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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Nikitas » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:26 am

Aint life a MF! The pipe is ready to spout and see what the Egyptians went and invented:

http://www.scidev.net/global/water/news ... nment.html

A way to desalinate without electricity, using low grade heat sources, ie like solar power. Damn!
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby umit07 » Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:39 pm

Nikitas wrote:Aint life a MF! The pipe is ready to spout and see what the Egyptians went and invented:

http://www.scidev.net/global/water/news ... nment.html

A way to desalinate without electricity, using low grade heat sources, ie like solar power. Damn!


Welcome back to the water thread. This has the potential to surpass Kafenas's (RIP) famous game thread. :shock:
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:20 pm

Nikitas wrote:Aint life a MF! The pipe is ready to spout and see what the Egyptians went and invented:

http://www.scidev.net/global/water/news ... nment.html

A way to desalinate without electricity, using low grade heat sources, ie like solar power. Damn!

why is it so difficult to see. no matter how much egyptian system costs it will still costs more than terggish water. howmany times do we have to say it.

the furquine water is furquine freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. we are only paying the distribution of it.

when it comes to desal water against spring water from anatolia we just prefer the spring water. only you boys prefer the desalinated piss water. you are welcome to it.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Nikitas » Tue Oct 20, 2015 6:10 pm

The best things in life are free LOL.

You obviously do not follow the TC press and the row brewing over the distribution rights and charges.

Free or not it is not YOURS. Desal water is YOURS, under your control, to do with as you please with not obligations.

Plus we have no idea of maintenance and repair costs.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:36 pm

Nikitas wrote:The best things in life are free LOL.

You obviously do not follow the TC press and the row brewing over the distribution rights and charges.

Free or not it is not YOURS. Desal water is YOURS, under your control, to do with as you please with not obligations.

Plus we have no idea of maintenance and repair costs.

correct they have to award the distribution and it will be charged for eeeeerrrrr for distributing it.
one last time. no furquine body has mentioned a price for the actual water.
which bit do you find difficult to comprehend.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby kurupetos » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:47 pm

Lordo wrote:
Nikitas wrote:The best things in life are free LOL.

You obviously do not follow the TC press and the row brewing over the distribution rights and charges.

Free or not it is not YOURS. Desal water is YOURS, under your control, to do with as you please with not obligations.

Plus we have no idea of maintenance and repair costs.

correct they have to award the distribution and it will be charged for eeeeerrrrr for distributing it.
one last time. no furquine body has mentioned a price for the actual water.
which bit do you find difficult to comprehend.

Turkey already paid 0.5 billion for it, kuz... and that's just the initial cost...

I bet the water is salty (mixed with sea water) and eventually the pipeline will collapse. :lol: Enjoy!
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:53 pm

Lordo wrote:
Nikitas wrote:The best things in life are free LOL.

You obviously do not follow the TC press and the row brewing over the distribution rights and charges.

Free or not it is not YOURS. Desal water is YOURS, under your control, to do with as you please with not obligations.

Plus we have no idea of maintenance and repair costs.

correct they have to award the distribution and it will be charged for eeeeerrrrr for distributing it.
one last time. no furquine body has mentioned a price for the actual water.
which bit do you find difficult to comprehend.



So far you have no idea what the costs will be.
Take it from here.The pumps required at Turkey to push it 80km, should be equivalent to pumps lifting it 200-300m high.
I doubt anyone can understand why but here's the info you might need:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 3.app1/pdf
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Lordo » Tue Oct 20, 2015 11:23 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Nikitas wrote:The best things in life are free LOL.

You obviously do not follow the TC press and the row brewing over the distribution rights and charges.

Free or not it is not YOURS. Desal water is YOURS, under your control, to do with as you please with not obligations.

Plus we have no idea of maintenance and repair costs.

correct they have to award the distribution and it will be charged for eeeeerrrrr for distributing it.
one last time. no furquine body has mentioned a price for the actual water.
which bit do you find difficult to comprehend.



So far you have no idea what the costs will be.
Take it from here.The pumps required at Turkey to push it 80km, should be equivalent to pumps lifting it 200-300m high.
I doubt anyone can understand why but here's the info you might need:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1 ... 3.app1/pdf

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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:45 am

A secret document, prepared by the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) and leaked by the Greek Cypriot Intelligence Services, has claimed that the new fresh water pipeline from Turkey to the TRNC will enable northern Cyprus to raise its national income, making more difficult for southern Cyprus to claim properties according to international law.

Turkey has officially begun to supply fresh water to northern Cyprus via a much-awaited pipeline project on Oct. 17. Around 75 million cubic meters of water are expected to be sent to northern Cyprus from the Alaköprü Dam in southern Turkey via the pipeline.

According to the leaked document, which was prepared in 2011 when the pipeline’s foundation had been laid, the project will increase property prices and national income in the TRNC, making it difficult for southern Cyprus to take properties it has long claimed on the northern side.

The document, only small part of which was released by a southern Cypriot paper, was prepared by Serden Hoca, former TRNC President Derviş Eroğlu’s negotiator over the property issue.

The document must have been in the hands of the TRNC Presidency and Turkish Ministry of Foreign Affairs, sources told daily Hürriyet. The original copy is composed of three separate documents. The leaked documents include parts from all three.

According to the documents, the fresh water will be used in the non-arable lands of northern Cyprus short-term to make them available for agricultural production. The value of the TRNC lands would then rise by at least 10 percent, gradually rising further. The documents also said the fresh water piped from Turkey will be quite enough to meet the needs of southern Cyprus as well. If the southern side uses the water, the water income will be used to resolve the property issues in Cyprus, according to the document.

The eastern Mediterranean island was divided into a Turkish Cypriot administration in the north and a Greek Cypriot one in the south after a Greek-inspired 1974 military coup was followed by the intervention of Turkey.

Long-stalled negotiations to settle the conflict resumed May 15 of this year.
October/20/2015

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/leaked ... sCatID=345
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Oct 21, 2015 4:17 am

[03] Seventeen organisations demonstrated against the water project Turkish Cypriot daily Kibris Postasi newspaper (17.10.15) broadcast that 17 organisations held a demonstration outside the "Turkish embassy" to occupied Lefkosia to protest against the water project transferred from Turkey and against the Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan.

Among the organisations protested were the New Cyprus Party (YKP), the United Cyprus Party (BKP), the Turkish Cypriot Secondary School Teachers' Trade Union (KTOEOS), the Turkish Cypriot Primary School Teachers' Trade Union (KTOS), the Feminist Initiative and others.
The demonstrators held black balloons and placards which read : "The water you have brought will not clean the blood of the lives you have taken".

The Chairman of the KTOS Sener Elcil read out a short statement after which the demonstrators held a minute silence in memory of the people who died in the bombing in Ankara last week.

The joint statement said that the "project of the century was the disaster of the century" and the water project would bring an ecological disaster with it. It went on to say that they were there to protest as well as mourn those who lost their lives.

The 100 black balloons were left to the sky after which the demonstrators left peacefully.

[04] How the Turkish Cypriot press covered the opening ceremonies of Anamur dam and Panagra dam

The main issue in the Turkish Cypriot newspapers on Sunday (18.10.15) was the opening ceremonies of Anamur dam in Turkey and the Panagra dam in the occupied area of the Republic of Cyprus within the framework of the "water supply project".
The Turkish Cypriot papers covered in their front pages the ceremonies with the following titles:

KIBRIS: "The water of peace".

HAVADIS: "The running water for peace and prosperity"

VATAN: "We gave the name Peace Water and we will give to the South too"

AFRIKA: "The 3rd operation in the island". It is the only paper, which reported on the protest demonstrations against the water project in its front page instead of the opening ceremonies.

YENI DUZEN: "Rally in Anamur, opening in Camlibel (occupied village of Myrtou". The paper reported that the Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan turned the opening ceremony at the Anamur dam to a rally for the upcoming elections in Turkey. Erdogan criticized harshly the domestic policies in Turkey against the opposition.

HALKIN SESI: "Let it be the water of peace"

KIBRISLI: "The centennial missing is finished". The paper reported that the strong links between the motherland and the child-land have connected eternally.

STAR KIBRIS: "Thanks Motherland"

DETAY: "1453 soul came to our rescue"

DIYALOG: "Now, we are united"

KIBRIS POSTASI: "The water was dedicated to the 'peace hope'?"

YENI BAKIS: "A flow to the solution"

(DPs)

[05] Reports about the price of the water transferred from Turkey

Illegal Bayrak television (16.10.15) broadcast that the head of the "Municipalities Water and Sewerage Enterprises" BESKI and head of the "Turkish Cypriot Municipalities Union" Ahmet Benli said that managing and operating the water are two separate things and added that "in democracy the management is always the people and the operating is always the states or the private sectors".
Touching upon the pricing of water, Benli said that currently 15 cents is paid for from its source, 25 cents for it to be distributed by the state and goes for 45 to 50 cents as the real price of the water.

Noting that once the water from Turkey arrives and is distributed there will be a major difference in water prices, Benli warned that after calculating all the expenses involved in obtaining the water, the real price of the water may be higher than 60 to 80 cents.

He also said that according to their sources the amount of water used by the population of the breakaway regime in 2015 is 38.8 million cubic metres.

Giving information about the reason behind BESKI's establishment Benli said that their main aim was to show the "people" how successful they could be and give a new dynamism and morale to the public.

(TR. Note: BESKI was established with the aim of administrating the water which came from Turkey to the occupied area of the island.)

[06] Turkish Cypriot columnist: They even brought people from Turkey; we were like guests at the ceremony in occupied Panagra

Under the title "Not being able to administrate even the ceremony, not only the water", columnist Sami Ozuslu in Turkish Cypriot daily Yeni Duzen newspaper (19.10.15) refers to the ceremonies held on Saturday at Anamur in Turkey and in occupied Panagra village area in the occupied part of Cyprus regarding the project for bringing water from Turkey to the occupied area of the island.
Ozuslu writes that he was offended by the way the ceremonies were held and explains:

"[?] Let us continuously say that we want the administration of the water, we could not administrate even the ceremony organized in our own country! Let me say it in another way: We participated in absolutely no point of the ceremonies organized for the water. Neither in Anamur nor in Panagra. In fact, we understood that the president and the prime minister went [Translator's note: he means Mustafa Akinci and Omer Kalalyoncu] to Anamur when the TRT started its live broadcasting. And we saw that 'our people' were also there! When they went there and how they arrived? No one knew it. The Turkish Cypriot press has once more been treated as being 'third class' [press]. Was it only in Anamur? No, the 'boss' at the ceremony in Panagra were also the employees brought from Turkey. They have organized everything. We were almost like 'guests'. In any case, the presenter of the ceremony behaved in this manner. While called Erdogan 'our president', he announced Akinci as 'the TRNC president'. I do not know about you, but I was offended. [?]

The ceremony held in Anamur was turned into a rally of the AKP with the pretext of 'the opening ceremony of the water'. [?] Davutoglu, who makes known his views in every occasion, without deviating from his ideology, declared to friends and enemies that 'they united the TRNC and the island of Cyprus with Anatolia through pipelines forever'. Davutoglu talked like a Grand Vizier whose country is a bed of roses and not like a responsible prime minister of a country in which more than 100 people died about a week ago. [?]

Perhaps many of us do not realize it, but even participants from Turkey were brought for the ceremony at Panagra! Those who would go from here were probably not considered to be sufficient. A person who talked to Kanal SIM said that 'I came from Adana for the ceremony'. Not only water came with pipelines. Together with the water, the organizers of the ceremony also came, a presenter came, and persons providing security came. Even 'persons to shout slogans' came!

I do not know about you, but I was offended by this. The water came, let us rejoice, let us be happy, yes. [?] However, if we will suffer in this manner after the water comes, no! [?] And if my president and my prime minister will become a side dish at pre-election rallies, if they will be forced to put up with religious and racist slogans shouted without showing any respect to their political line and stance and if they will not be able to reject this, no!

We were not able to administrate not only the water, but even the ceremony for the water! This was the clearest message given on 17 October 2015. I do not know about you, but I was very, very offended".

(I/Ts.)
http://www.hri.org/news/cyprus/tcpr/201 ... .tcpr.html


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