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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Maximus » Sat Nov 16, 2013 11:15 am

Jimski999 wrote:What we really need in the ROC is a Nuclear Power Station; one that can provide power for Desalination Plants and generate cheap electricity. More Gas has to be found before an LNG Plant is financially viable so a Nuclear Power Station is a good long term investment.


that's very risky,

Solar power could be the best way forward for Cyprus.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Nov 16, 2013 4:40 pm

The damn at Geçitköy is massive, go visit but dont forget your id cards.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby bill cobbett » Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:09 pm

Maximus wrote:
Jimski999 wrote:What we really need in the ROC is a Nuclear Power Station; one that can provide power for Desalination Plants and generate cheap electricity. More Gas has to be found before an LNG Plant is financially viable so a Nuclear Power Station is a good long term investment.


that's very risky,

Solar power could be the best way forward for Cyprus.


Well, CY will soon have a nuclear station not terribly far away, as there is one gonna built on the Turkish coast just 40 miles away.

Indeed, there's a lot of protest against this power station in that part of Turkey.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby B25 » Sat Nov 16, 2013 6:59 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Maximus wrote:
Jimski999 wrote:What we really need in the ROC is a Nuclear Power Station; one that can provide power for Desalination Plants and generate cheap electricity. More Gas has to be found before an LNG Plant is financially viable so a Nuclear Power Station is a good long term investment.


that's very risky,

Solar power could be the best way forward for Cyprus.


Well, CY will soon have a nuclear station not terribly far away, as there is one gonna built on the Turkish coast just 40 miles away.

Indeed, there's a lot of protest against this power station in that part of Turkey.

Yes and I wonder if the US will have the same objections as they do with Iran??? Turkey is fast becoming a islamist come crimonal terrorist country, perhaps the international community should turn its eye on Turkey instead if Iran.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Jimski999 » Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:07 pm

If Solar Panels were the way to go the UAE wouldn't be investing in several Nuclear Power Stations. Unfortunately the technology isn't efficient enough to go down the renewable energy road at the moment and Wind Farms are a total waste of time in Cyprus; one only has to go to Kouklia to see them all stood still and they are a real blot on the lanscape.

Abu Dhabi has so much LNG it doen't know what to do with it and they are investing big time in Nuclear Power. They have massive Solar Panel Farms but they can not provide the power demand required. Renewable energy is all well and good but again it is not feasble to use it to provide the power demands of a country.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Demonax » Fri Nov 22, 2013 3:55 am

An account from a TC journalist on the doubts and uncertainties behind the water 'project' in the occupied areas....

From what I can see in the media in the TRNC, there is nobody except Hasan Sarpten, the head of the Biologists Association, who talks about the problems surrounding the project. And nobody except a few in the media talks about the project. What are other non-governmental organisations, universities, political parties saying? Why is the media not fulfilling its duty of 'informing, enlightening the people?'

For example, I read the most comprehensive news report about the project up until today in the US media, not the TRNC or the Turkish media. The news report was in The New York Times...

Normally, such pipes are laid on the seabed. But in this case the pipeline will run 250 meters deep from the surface, on suspenders. In other words, the experts are also curious to see how the project will turn out, whether it will work or not.

Of course, the news report also included the environmental experts' concerns regarding the project's impact on nature. Interestingly, an expert states that such projects lead to an increase in water demand rather than meeting water needs. The expert used the example of the Tagus-Segura water pipeline that was opened in 1978 in Spain. The project not only increased the proportion of irrigated land, but also the constructions in the region, and therefore, worsened the water shortage problem that it had aimed to solve.

What I mean to say is, there are many question marks regarding the project. We cannot underestimate what Sarpten has been saying all along regarding the harm the project has done and will do to the ecology of Northern Cyprus.

And then, there is the political-strategic dimension. The Turkish Forestry and Water Works Minister Veysel Eroğlu said: “With this project, we will connect the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus to the Motherland with an umbilical cord.” Was he trying to say that the project would strengthen the relations between the two countries or was he reflecting a deeper view? What kind of a freedom was the TRNC Environment and Natural Resources Minister envisaging as he said, “The project of the century will be the name of a new freedom enjoyed by Turkish Cypriot people after the 1974 Happy Peace Operation”?

I don’t know.

What Sarpten has pointed out regarding this aspect of the project is also important: a country aspiring to solve its water problems does not have a water law; the Environmental Impact Assessment report, which is a requirement, was not prepared regarding the TRNC leg of the project (therefore, illegally) and the TRNC authorities do not have a say in the project… One way or another, it seems that this project will increase the TRNC’s economic and physical dependence on Turkey. This is not a simple commercial agreement between two equal and independent countries, like the natural gas agreements between Russia and Germany. When the system becomes operational, it will be added on that long list that includes the military and money: “Turkey provides our water too…”

Not to mention the fact that every Turkish citizen, from the people on the street to those upset with their prime minister, will be able to say, “You would not find any water to drink if it wasn’t for us”…


http://www.lemoncy.eu/authors_article_detail.php?Vid=40
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby gardash » Fri Nov 22, 2013 11:36 am

Viewpoint wrote:The damn at Geçitköy is massive, go visit but dont forget your id cards.

Have you seen the massive stockpiles of large diameter pipes next to the Lefkosa-Girne roundabout and elsewhere?
Anyone harbouring any doubts that Turkey has the will and the engineering skill to complete this project needs to think again.
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Kikapu » Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:35 am

gardash wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The damn at Geçitköy is massive, go visit but dont forget your id cards.

Have you seen the massive stockpiles of large diameter pipes next to the Lefkosa-Girne roundabout and elsewhere?
Anyone harbouring any doubts that Turkey has the will and the engineering skill to complete this project needs to think again.


According to this article, the water pipe from Turkey to Cyprus has already finished. :lol:

Natural gas a likely incentive for Cyprus solution

Greek Cypriots believe that converting natural gas into liquefied form makes it possible to ship, avoiding the need to construct new pipelines. However, Turkish Cypriots propose that transporting the natural gas via Turkey through a pipeline would not be difficult, as there is already a pipeline for water, thus the natural gas line could be attached to the existing pipeline.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-332175- ... ution.html
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby boulio » Sat Nov 23, 2013 12:38 am

Isent the ROC in negotiations to get water from Lebanon ?
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Re: Water - The Propaganda Regime of "TRNC" ...???

Postby Lordo » Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:41 am

of course they can but who is paying for it.

good bit of news for you boys. i have now seen the pipe plan for cyprus and i can tell you there is no pipe going to garpaz. celebrate at winning garpaz back.

btw you can kiss goodby to guzelyurt. water is going there.
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