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[bill cobbett]

For turkish-speakers, a bit about the overwhelming support for the return of Occupied Varosi in this poll of CYs in the Occupied Areas, as reported in kibrispostasi...

..." Mağusa İnisiyatifinin yaptırdığı anket sonucu yapılan “katılanların yüzde 73’ü Mağusa Limanı ve Maraş’ın en erken zamanda uluslararası ticarete ve yasal sahiplerinin yerleşimine açılmasını istiyor” şeklindeki açıklamalara Cumhurbaşkanlığı Danışma Kurulu üyesi Prof. Dr. Ata Atun’dan yanıt geldi..."

[Jerry]

For turkish-speakers, a bit about the overwhelming support for the return of Occupied Varosi in this poll of CYs in the Occupied Areas, as reported in kibrispostasi...

..." Mağusa İnisiyatifinin yaptırdığı anket sonucu yapılan “katılanların yüzde 73’ü Mağusa Limanı ve Maraş’ın en erken zamanda uluslararası ticarete ve yasal sahiplerinin yerleşimine açılmasını istiyor” şeklindeki açıklamalara Cumhurbaşkanlığı Danışma Kurulu üyesi Prof. Dr. Ata Atun’dan yanıt geldi..."

One would have to question the motive behind this support for the return of Varosha. I would like to think it's out of love for Cyprus and all Cypriots but I suspect it's a case of jobs for the boys from the occupied territory.

[Viewpoint]

403 people are hardly the majority, take an island wide vote and you would get a very different picture, they are people I talk for the majority so get a grip without Ercan and Magusa in the mix there will be no deal.

[Demonax]

without Ercan and Magusa in the mix there will be no deal.

We’ve been over this before. Turkey has in the past refused a deal on direct flights to the occupied areas because aviation and custom agreements would involve recognition of the Republic’s sovereignty over the north. That’s why it's not on the table.

[bill cobbett]

Another article showing support from CYs of the Occupied Areas for the return of Ammochostos, particularly from traders who see great benefits...

Reported in gundemkibris...

..." Gazimağusa Suriçi esnafı, Mağusa İnisiyatifi’nin Kapalı Maraş’ın açılmasını içeren önerisini umut olarak görüyor
Nadire KRAŞLIOĞLU

Siftah yapmadan kepenk kapatmaktan bıktığını ifade eden esnaf, Mağusa İnisiyatifi’nin Maraş önerisine sıkı sıkıya sarıldı. Esnaf, “Maraş açılsın da kimin kontrolünde açılırsa açılsın. Maraş’ın açılması sadece Suriçi’nin değil, tüm Mağusa’nın, dolayısı ile ülke ekonomisinin faydasına olur” diyerek öneriye destek veriyor ..."

[Viewpoint]

without Ercan and Magusa in the mix there will be no deal.

We’ve been over this before. Turkey has in the past refused a deal on direct flights to the occupied areas because aviation and custom agreements would involve recognition of the Republic’s sovereignty over the north. That’s why it's not on the table.

Proof, if returning Magusa Post means its part of the south then forget it but I doubt this is the case, so Ercan can also be handled in the same manner with EU & UN supervision.

[Demonax]

without Ercan and Magusa in the mix there will be no deal.

We’ve been over this before. Turkey has in the past refused a deal on direct flights to the occupied areas because aviation and custom agreements would involve recognition of the Republic’s sovereignty over the north. That’s why it's not on the table.

Proof, if returning Magusa Post means its part of the south then forget it but I doubt this is the case, so Ercan can also be handled in the same manner with EU & UN supervision.

Yes the port would ultimately come under the Republic's authority. It would be impossible to export products through ports that could not be checked by the legal government of the Republic. As for the airport, you cannot get around the sovereignty issue as international aviation agreements can only exist between sovereign nations.

Ultimately the problem for Turkey is that it is being requested to recognize that the Republic of Cyprus is the sole state in Cyprus. In that case Ankara would cease recognizing the Turkish-Cypriot “State” and it would accept that its armed forces constitute occupying forces.

[Viewpoint]

without Ercan and Magusa in the mix there will be no deal.

We’ve been over this before. Turkey has in the past refused a deal on direct flights to the occupied areas because aviation and custom agreements would involve recognition of the Republic’s sovereignty over the north. That’s why it's not on the table.

Proof, if returning Magusa Post means its part of the south then forget it but I doubt this is the case, so Ercan can also be handled in the same manner with EU & UN supervision.

Yes the port would ultimately come under the Republic's authority. It would be impossible to export products through ports that could not be checked by the legal government of the Republic. As for the airport, you cannot get around the sovereignty issue as international aviation agreements can only exist between sovereign nations.

Ultimately the problem for Turkey is that it is being requested to recognize that the Republic of Cyprus is the sole state in Cyprus. In that case Ankara would cease recognizing the Turkish-Cypriot “State” and it would accept that its armed forces constitute occupying forces.

If thats the case which I doubt because for years the deal has been that the port/s be under the TCs control with EU and UN supervision no talk of the GCs being involved, then of course there is no deal until or if a comprehensive solution is found, you expect us to hand back Maraş and the port for what? so we can trade through a GC state...we can do that now but the red tape and obstructions in the south dont allow this.

[Demonax]

Another call for the return of Varosha to its legal owners...

Mustafa Akinci: Varosha must not be abandoned to dying anymore

Turkish Cypriot daily Havadis newspaper (26.08.13) reports that Mustafa Akinci, former “mayor” of the occupied part of Nicosia, “MP” and party chairman, has said that the occupied fenced city of Varosha must not be abandoned to dying anymore. In his first statements made after a long period of time, Akinci noted that the demand for opening the fenced Varosha should be examined and added that the door for the solution of the Cyprus problem could “open up” with this development.

Akinci went on and wondered: “Why we do not stop saying that Varosha is part of the comprehensive solution and evaluate it as a key which will open the door of the comprehensive solution?”

Akinci described as “striking” and “comprehensible” the results of the survey recently announced by the Initiative for Famagusta and noted that “people can see what is right”.

Recalling that when he was active in politics he was saying that “Varosha has become a place of snakes, centipedes and rats, but somehow it could not become a place of people”, Akinci added: “let it become a place of people, let a solution be produced, and let a step be taken on the issue of Varosha”.

He noted: “Varosha must not be abandoned to dying any more. 73% of the people of Famagusta want its opening. The Greek Cypriots would of course want this. It is not a wise thing to leave this issue hanging in the air for another 40 years. Varosha is at the same time a humanitarian issue. The Turkish Cypriots are experiencing the sorrow of living together with this. And think also the sorrow of those who have abandoned this place. Think also the business fields which will open here. Think the economic potential. There is an element that could be triggered from whichever point you look at it and we should go beyond the ordinary on this issue”.

http://www.cyprusexpat.co.uk/blog/read/ ... rus-opened

[bill cobbett]

Excellent news Demon.

The momentum for a Free Ammochostos is growing.

As to the rubbish muddying of the waters from VP above...

The proposal is for Free Trade from the port at Occupied Famagusta under EU supervision of exports.

In other words to check exports to the Union comply with EU standards on safety .

No other aspect of the status quo changes.