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Re: Ashes

Postby miltiades » Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:56 pm

Just imagine a world without any other sport apart from boring Cricket!!

I tolerate some football, a tiny bit of- I forget the bloody name of the one that they are pulling each other down-
Love athletics, boxing, and ...wine drinking, as well as watching a Russian beauty putting on or taking off ..things.
Last film I went to see was in 1963, Ben Hur. Hate TV , but love watching and listening to Greek music, not the jungle type that they now play but the real Greek music.

Also keen on documentaries and animal programmes, but cricket def NO!!

Watch this clip for Real Sport ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsAynjAgeHQ
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Re: Ashes

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 21, 2013 2:57 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Ah yes, thank you P.

The game was further developed by the first Illegal English Settlers to Oz, who used empty lager cans for a ball.


It was invented by the Poms, but I think the Aussies perfected it because they kept beating them all the time! :lol:

Except the year of the Bodyline Series where the Poms resorted to cheating! :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rybPvBa3Oc
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Re: Ashes

Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:00 pm

Paphitis wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Ah yes, thank you P.

The game was further developed by the first Illegal English Settlers to Oz, who used empty lager cans for a ball.


It was invented by the Poms, but I think the Aussies perfected it because they kept beating them all the time! :lol:

Except the year of the Bodyline Series where the Poms resorted to cheating! :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rybPvBa3Oc


Nothing illegal about robust bowling.
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Re: Ashes

Postby Get Real! » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:05 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Cricket is a very complicated game. It is not like Football.

It is really an amazing game of intense strategy, and endurance. It is quite hard too. Imagine facing a fast bowling who fires them down the pitch and past your head at 150km/hr.

But that's not it. Fielding (slips, cover, point etc), batting (there is so much technique), bowling (where do I begin) Offspin, Legspin, etc, the sledging and concentration over 5 days.

I got into it because I played when I was younger and even had the pleasure to face Darren Lehman. :D

Amazing game!

But still, it is hard to expect the average Cypriot to get into it who has never been exposed to the game from the grassroots. First of all, it is quite a task to explain all the rules of the game. I mean, where do you begin? :?

Football you could explain in 5 minutes.

:lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3cLgs--NDU

Thanks for the video Paphitis but it was just too complicated for me to understand as hard as I tried, so I’ll return to my soccer now. :lol:
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Re: Ashes

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:06 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Ah yes, thank you P.

The game was further developed by the first Illegal English Settlers to Oz, who used empty lager cans for a ball.


It was invented by the Poms, but I think the Aussies perfected it because they kept beating them all the time! :lol:

Except the year of the Bodyline Series where the Poms resorted to cheating! :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rybPvBa3Oc


Nothing illegal about robust bowling.


That was not robust bowling.

That was cheating and aiming for the body and head. Apparently not the done thing in those days.

Every ball was over the shoulders and then that 1 right on lbw...
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Re: Ashes

Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:09 pm

Paphitis wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Ah yes, thank you P.

The game was further developed by the first Illegal English Settlers to Oz, who used empty lager cans for a ball.


It was invented by the Poms, but I think the Aussies perfected it because they kept beating them all the time! :lol:

Except the year of the Bodyline Series where the Poms resorted to cheating! :roll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rybPvBa3Oc


Nothing illegal about robust bowling.


That was not robust bowling.

That was cheating and aiming for the body and head. Apparently not the done thing in those days.

Every ball was over the shoulders and then that 1 right on lbw...


Nothing wrong in testing the mettle and judgement of the batsman.
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Re: Ashes

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:11 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Cricket is a very complicated game. It is not like Football.

It is really an amazing game of intense strategy, and endurance. It is quite hard too. Imagine facing a fast bowling who fires them down the pitch and past your head at 150km/hr.

But that's not it. Fielding (slips, cover, point etc), batting (there is so much technique), bowling (where do I begin) Offspin, Legspin, etc, the sledging and concentration over 5 days.

I got into it because I played when I was younger and even had the pleasure to face Darren Lehman. :D

Amazing game!

But still, it is hard to expect the average Cypriot to get into it who has never been exposed to the game from the grassroots. First of all, it is quite a task to explain all the rules of the game. I mean, where do you begin? :?

Football you could explain in 5 minutes.

:lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3cLgs--NDU

Thanks for the video Paphitis but it was just too complicated for me to understand as hard as I tried, so I’ll return to my soccer now. :lol:


Yeh well it is a hard game.

That was a video of the controversial Bodyline Series in 1932/1933 where the Poms came to Australia and kept bowling at the batsmen. Now you are only allowed one bouncer per over!

The English devised the bouncer to counteract Donald Bradman (the worlds best batsman) and they nearly killed a player as one was hit in the temple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodyline
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Re: Ashes

Postby RichardB » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:40 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Cricket is a very complicated game. It is not like Football.

It is really an amazing game of intense strategy, and endurance. It is quite hard too. Imagine facing a fast bowling who fires them down the pitch and past your head at 150km/hr.

But that's not it. Fielding (slips, cover, point etc), batting (there is so much technique), bowling (where do I begin) Offspin, Legspin, etc, the sledging and concentration over 5 days.

I got into it because I played when I was younger and even had the pleasure to face Darren Lehman. :D

Amazing game!

But still, it is hard to expect the average Cypriot to get into it who has never been exposed to the game from the grassroots. First of all, it is quite a task to explain all the rules of the game. I mean, where do you begin? :?

Football you could explain in 5 minutes.

:lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3cLgs--NDU

Thanks for the video Paphitis but it was just too complicated for me to understand as hard as I tried, so I’ll return to my soccer now. :lol:


Yeh well it is a hard game.

That was a video of the controversial Bodyline Series in 1932/1933 where the Poms came to Australia and kept bowling at the batsmen. Now you are only allowed one bouncer per over!

The English devised the bouncer to counteract Donald Bradman (the worlds best batsman) and they nearly killed a player as one was hit in the temple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodyline
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Re: Ashes

Postby RichardB » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:41 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Cricket is a very complicated game. It is not like Football.

It is really an amazing game of intense strategy, and endurance. It is quite hard too. Imagine facing a fast bowling who fires them down the pitch and past your head at 150km/hr.

But that's not it. Fielding (slips, cover, point etc), batting (there is so much technique), bowling (where do I begin) Offspin, Legspin, etc, the sledging and concentration over 5 days.

I got into it because I played when I was younger and even had the pleasure to face Darren Lehman. :D

Amazing game!

But still, it is hard to expect the average Cypriot to get into it who has never been exposed to the game from the grassroots. First of all, it is quite a task to explain all the rules of the game. I mean, where do you begin? :?

Football you could explain in 5 minutes.

:lol:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3cLgs--NDU

Thanks for the video Paphitis but it was just too complicated for me to understand as hard as I tried, so I’ll return to my soccer now. :lol:


Yeh well it is a hard game.

That was a video of the controversial Bodyline Series in 1932/1933 where the Poms came to Australia and kept bowling at the batsmen. Now you are only allowed one bouncer per over!

The English devised the bouncer to counteract Donald Bradman (the worlds best batsman) and they nearly killed a player as one was hit in the temple.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodyline

The bodyline series really was a war (with govts getting involved) and as paphites said it was totally against the spirit of the 'gentlemens' game at the time .

Jardine the English captain however would argue until his death that what England produced WAS within the laws of the game.

It should be noted that Harold Larwood never represented England again after that tour , and Bill Voce his bowling partner never again reached the heights previously attained.

Both bowlers came from the same pit village of Kirby in Ashfield and both played for Notts CCC...and would have seen cricket as an escape from the pits.

I had the honour of meeting Harold Larwood shortly before his death when i was working at Trent Bridge and he had come over from Australia ( of all places) where he then lived, to have a stand named in his honour at Trent Bridge.

Both Harold Larwood and Bill Voce are still revered in cricketing circles in Nottingham ..having streets and pubs named after them.

Looking back at the old films of the series it is amusing to note that their bowling (on film at least) looks quite tame compared to Thomson and Lillee in the seventies!!!
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Re: Ashes

Postby bill cobbett » Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:07 pm

Yes.... Two things please...

Much of the controversy is about the background of those bowlers... middle class gents they were not...and with an uncompromising Jardine to lead them.

... and we never heard any complaints from the Ozzies regarding Lillee's bowling, who would similarly test the spirit of the game with his bouncers... often at the lower order.
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