stpier wrote:kimon07 wrote:
15,000,000 Kurds, 15,000,000 Alevis. Then count all the others including the Syriacs the cryptochristians etc.
If you count the Turkic people of other countries maybe the Spaniards should count the Latin Americans to determine their exact population?
I don't know what you think Alevis are but they are not a different ethnic group. There are Turkish Alevis. Search before you post
I am really getting fed up of seeing these stupid posts every time I bother to glance in this forum (only to realise why I do not bother to anymore!) I agree with the comment about Alevi's made by "stpier" - kimon7 seems to be another crusader who talks with feelings rather than knowledge. The Turkic nations/populations from Mongolia across Russia South all the way to Balkans number well over 200 million - and that excludes the millions inside populated "Sincan" region inside Western borders of China who are of Turkic origin speaking a dialect of one of the most original Turkic languages (mainly of muslim religion).
Some GCs must stop being so bloody fanatic and presumptuous about what the TCs may or may not think! The fact that (and I agree with them) most TCs want both the Turkish Army and mainland workers displacing TCs, out of Cyprus, they do not want them replaced by GCs or any EU force that may have the Christian cross as their insignia because of their flag or beliefs! The UN that mainly constituted European forces back in 1960 were no more than spectators to atrocities carried out against TCs by whoever and that is something we shall always remember.
The same was the case in the Balkans against the Muslims of Bosnia - UNTIL NATO forces (including Turkish) moved in to save those people (to great dismay of many Serbian Orthodox supporters such as Russia, Greece and Cyprus) - We all know what happened to the Muslims until that intervention took place. If you do not, I suggest you Google it and do some reading about the events that took place during and after that war (including the war crimes hearings in the European Courts).
Under the circumstances and looking at its history + mermbership, NATO forces look to be the best option for any force to be stationed in Cyprus if any are needed - yet our GC countrymen think of us as proper idiots and suggest an EU force that would exclude any protection by Turkey, and probably allow military involvement by Greece, be implanted in Cyprus
PUT ALL THAT ASIDE! Why do we need any army in Cyprus- - once we agreed to co-exist and Turkey has pulled out??? Get rid of the National Guard as well, and have a strong police force + coast guard. Can any GC in this forum please tell me what it is exactly they are scared of happening, that has not been happening over the past 40 years with the Turkish army staring them in the face on Cyprus soil, once we agree to co-exist? You give me an iota of a reason and I will go to the nearest church and convert to Christianity!
Do you think if Cyprus as an EU member was to be attacked by an outside force for any expansionist purpose, EU and NATO forces would stand idle and watch it swallowed up? What planet are you living on? What a waste of finances it is, spending a fortune on arms and equipment so that some people can play "soldiers & generals", total waste of time and money where they can be nothing more than a fart in the dark in today's military world! Much better to spend it on the ailing economy of the island - don't you think?
I go to a quite beach 10 km West of Girne 2-3 times a week. GC and Armenian families (young and old) outnumber the Turks and TCs that are on the beach by 2 to1 !!! Why don't we (the animal Turks) beat them up or murder them? On the contrary, any conversation between the two community members are always pleasant and well wishing. When an agreement is reached this will be even more so on both sides, to the dismay of handful but yet many racist fanatics who may exist (more so in the South).
If we agree that once an agreement is reached, and a proper education system is introduced on both sides to promote friendship rather than hatred amongst our people, there should be no further danger or chances of another war ever taking place between the two communities (Once left alone by mainland Greeks and Turkey). We as Turkish Cypriots are not scared of the GCs, in the very unlikely event that anyone tries (which I do not believe will happen anyway) we have the men and the balls to resist any extinction plans that may be put in force by any Greek Orthodox fanatic.
However, I will tell you why some GCs are so persistent in having some kind of a pro-Greek European forces on the island after we reach an agreement. IT CAN ONLY BE FOR ONE REASON - if and when in future they try to get rid of the TCs from Cyprus (and this I am sure is the idea of the minority fanatics that always seem to put forward the proposition even in this forum) then Turkey's hands can be tied and by the time EU would even bother to do anything about it, they can effectively clear the island of TCs and declare a Greek Cypriot Republic! This is something EVERY TC is well aware of! So if our neighbours are sincere about a solution and co-existence, then they will have to learn to forget about stationing any EU, UN or any other armies in Cyprus and trust their own behaviour in future.
Are you imbecile or what?
