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[miltiades]

S, I'm fully aware of our political predicament. for years now I " battle" our cause whenever the opportunity presents it self.

A visit to northcyprusfreepress.com will show that although faced with intense and ferocious attacks on my person, I hold my ground, I do however resort to "rudeness", not in my ...nature, in view of the fact that I absolutely detest cheapskates.

I do condemn "indifference" and cruelty to animals and birds in Cyprus because it exists, I do not close my eyes and justify, as you and others do, by simply saying that it also exists elsewhere.

We Cypriots owe it to our future generations to take care of our environment and that includes animal welfare.

I have come across many Cypriots who consider the shooting of cats by airgun as a ...sport !!

[GreekIslandGirl]

S, I'm fully aware of our political predicament. for years now I " battle" our cause whenever the opportunity presents it self.

A visit to northcyprusfreepress.com will show that although faced with intense and ferocious attacks on my person, I hold my ground, I do however resort to "rudeness", not in my ...nature, in view of the fact that I absolutely detest cheapskates.

I do condemn "indifference" and cruelty to animals and birds in Cyprus because it exists, I do not close my eyes and justify, as you and others do, by simply saying that it also exists elsewhere.

We Cypriots owe it to our future generations to take care of our environment and that includes animal welfare.

I have come across many Cypriots who consider the shooting of cats by airgun as a ...sport !!

Stop getting hysterical. That is your weakness. You are also changing the course of the discussion by going backward. No one on this forum ignores the plight of animals; but what we have here are interlopers who try to make out Cypriots are different to everyone else on the planet in deliberately attacking animals. And you do NOT help balance this discrimination! Pull yourself together man and stand up for Cypriots! Real Cypriots. Greek Cypriots, not the Turks who have arrived since 1974 and are living on the properties of GCs and then turning round and accusing GCs of barbarism in an effort to secure their ill-gotten gains.

[Paphitis]

S, I'm fully aware of our political predicament. for years now I " battle" our cause whenever the opportunity presents it self.

A visit to northcyprusfreepress.com will show that although faced with intense and ferocious attacks on my person, I hold my ground, I do however resort to "rudeness", not in my ...nature, in view of the fact that I absolutely detest cheapskates.

I do condemn "indifference" and cruelty to animals and birds in Cyprus because it exists, I do not close my eyes and justify, as you and others do, by simply saying that it also exists elsewhere.

We Cypriots owe it to our future generations to take care of our environment and that includes animal welfare.

I have come across many Cypriots who consider the shooting of cats by airgun as a ...sport !!

Stop getting hysterical. That is your weakness. You are also changing the course of the discussion by going backward. No one on this forum ignores the plight of animals; but what we have here are interlopers who try to make out Cypriots are different to everyone else on the planet in deliberately attacking animals. And you do NOT help balance this discrimination! Pull yourself together man and stand up for Cypriots! Real Cypriots. Greek Cypriots, not the Turks who have arrived since 1974 and are living on the properties of GCs and then turning round and accusing GCs of barbarism in an effort to secure their ill-gotten gains.

No one has accused anyone on the forum of anything other than you and Schnowoozer who do not live in reality.

I am sure the environmentalists care for Cyprus' political predicament greatly, but let's not begin to confuse environmental issues with politics because they are not political and neither are they personal. Environmentalists take up many worthwhile causes around the globe and no country is immune from their activism and most operate within their respective countries with few international bodies like Greenpeace taking their operations all over the world from the Arctic Ocean to Antarctica and even risking their lives by placing themselves between Japanese Whalers and the Whales they try to protect with little support from the UK, Russia, Australia, NZ, US, Canada and Argentina.

[erolz66]

And you do NOT help balance this discrimination! Pull yourself together man and stand up for Cypriots! Real Cypriots. Greek Cypriots, not the Turks who have arrived since 1974 and are living on the properties of GCs and then turning round and accusing GCs of barbarism in an effort to secure their ill-gotten gains.

As much as you hate the fact , I am a Cypriot. A real Cypriot. I am also NOT Greek, not GC and not a Turk.

[miltiades]

S, I'm fully aware of our political predicament. for years now I " battle" our cause whenever the opportunity presents it self.

A visit to northcyprusfreepress.com will show that although faced with intense and ferocious attacks on my person, I hold my ground, I do however resort to "rudeness", not in my ...nature, in view of the fact that I absolutely detest cheapskates.

I do condemn "indifference" and cruelty to animals and birds in Cyprus because it exists, I do not close my eyes and justify, as you and others do, by simply saying that it also exists elsewhere.

We Cypriots owe it to our future generations to take care of our environment and that includes animal welfare.

I have come across many Cypriots who consider the shooting of cats by airgun as a ...sport !!

Stop getting hysterical. That is your weakness. You are also changing the course of the discussion by going backward. No one on this forum ignores the plight of animals; but what we have here are interlopers who try to make out Cypriots are different to everyone else on the planet in deliberately attacking animals. And you do NOT help balance this discrimination! Pull yourself together man and stand up for Cypriots! Real Cypriots. Greek Cypriots, not the Turks who have arrived since 1974 and are living on the properties of GCs and then turning round and accusing GCs of barbarism in an effort to secure their ill-gotten gains.

All my life I have been standing up for Cypriots, on this forum for more than 7 years my views are well known by most, not so by you who are either paranoid or approaching the early stages of "GREEK" Diamentia, the most potent form of dementia I might add.

To criticize certain aspects of Cypriot behaviour, ie driving like fucking lunatics,. ignoring traffic lights, not wearing helmets when riding motorbikes whilst texting or masturbating simultaneously doing... willies with a child pillion is not derogatory towards the overall majority.

Cyprus is my paradise on earth, and criticize parasites I shall do, its my country, my people and I have every right to do so.

[B25]

Came across this and thought, how appropriate. They obviously need Cypriot consultants to tell them how to manage their 'endangered' birds

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzav_Lpldcg

[miltiades]

And you do NOT help balance this discrimination! Pull yourself together man and stand up for Cypriots! Real Cypriots. Greek Cypriots, not the Turks who have arrived since 1974 and are living on the properties of GCs and then turning round and accusing GCs of barbarism in an effort to secure their ill-gotten gains.

As much as you hate the fact , I am a Cypriot. A real Cypriot. I am also NOT Greek, not GC and not a Turk.

Proud to have you as my true compatriot.

[The subaltern]

It appears some St Francis’s posting here who speak on behalf of the animals and birds and yet they have not managed to do their miracle in order to save them from the “caring” western man. To save them that is, from his cats, his chemicals, his deforestations and destruction of bird habitat, his intensive agricultural practices, acquiring more and more land for cultivation by destroying hedges and wetlands, his monoculture, his replanting of trees unsuitable for birds but suitable for commercial exploitation, his hunting etc, not forgetting of course the murderous technologies that take their toll on the innocent birds.

Somehow his practices have no effect on the species, only the trappers practices have! and ought to be punished. So they sent their armies of bird protectors armed with their superior moral values to do battle with the trappers; forgetting of course that this man is practising a tradition for over 3000 years, much more prevalent than now, that had no detrimental effect on the species until they have decided that it has.

And all hell brakes loose! The Noah’s from the West, where the ark in their land is like a sieve full of holes and about to sink, appeared in order to save the birds and animals from the Cypriot deluge.
Millions of birds killed! 80 Euros a dozen! Swallowed whole by the hungry boas of Cyprus! With their Viagra qualities! Where the unemployed found a job as trappers! Illegal! Illegal they shout while in their own lands the killing continues unabated. Legally of course! When the problem becomes acute they do not hesitate to declare: Let’s do a study to find out the reasons!

The minor Noahs, home grown of course declare; never mind what’s going on elsewhere lets behave correctly ourselves. Let’s save the birds. The only problem though is that the trappers are not operating in a vacuum and neither are the birds immune to what’s happening elsewhere.

In fact as things go, very soon hunting will be made totally illegal in Cyprus under pressure of course from the bird champions, yet legal in their own countries. There is a good reason for it, “Game”, to use the euphemistic Anglo-Saxon term, in Cyprus it is mostly migratory birds and since they are drastically reduced in number or are at risk as a result of what’s happening elsewhere; the demand will be, banning hunting in Cyprus since it kills endangered species. In fact the bird champions call hunting in Cyprus, “shooting” and “hunting” is done in their own lands.

Birds in effect are put under western protection. The skies have been colonised!

And ourselves in a fit of stupidity we indulge in self flagellation in order to demonstrate to our “friends” how much we agree with their concerns, forgetting of course that we are agreeing with the people who created the problem in the first place.
Like “The friends of the Ear (Φίλοι της γης) undersigning reports by CABS full of malice against the Cypriot people and society. (See field report 23 Sept- 2 Oct 2011 especially pages 23, 24, 25 & 26) If someone wishes to criticise it should be done through a Cypriot perspective otherwise you are subscribing to the propaganda and demonisation. By agreeing with the foreign perspective we perpetuate their sense of self righteousness, and us in need of a master or a driver like the Cypriot ox on the plough.

However their actions in Cyprus do not help the birds at all. In fact they have created more problems than would have otherwise been the case. If the trappers were to be left alone, the tradition would have faded away in few years time. There are many other reasons why their interference is detrimental not only for the birds but to the Cypriot society as well.

Actually the trappers ought to ask the European bird champions to pay compensation for bird depletion and for trying to deprive them of their 3000 year old tradition.

[miltiades]

"In simple terms then, why is the Ambelopoulia trapping a problem? Answer: The trapping methods used are so indiscriminant and result in the deaths of birds from such a wide array of species. Individual birds from over 150 (!!!) different species have been found to be trapped and killed. Even worse, the number of species with conservation status of “vulnerable” or worse exceeds 28, and the number of species with limited global range includes at least 9 species, according to surveys. Just about any bird that would fly through a garden, orchard, or similar habitat can fall prey to the trapping methods used in Cyprus.

Nightingale, Thrush Nightingale, Semi-collared Flycatcher, Tree Pipit, Golden Oriole, Bonelli’s Warbler and Common Cuckoo — all difficult birds to see even for an experienced birder who is familiar with the Cyprus landscape — are also killed, and in saddening numbers.

Even Pallid Harrier, Merlin, Lesser Kestrel, Barn Owl, Short-eared Owl, and Long-eared Owl are killed. And many more species that have also been trapped illegally, in Cyprus. The list goes on and on and on.

[GreekIslandGirl]

Please, don't ignore this:

THE UK's plans to erect a 500,000-watt radio mast at its military listening base in Cyprus have been sharply rebuked by Green MEPs, who fear that it will damage the environment and pose a health risk.

The antenna will be sited on a planned nature reserve and the Greens claim its electromagnetic emissions could affect ecosystems in the area, which lies on an important migration route for many species of birds.

Cyprus, a front runner in the EU enlargement talks, is calling for the wetlands near the Royal Air Force base at Akrotiri to be listed as 'Ramsar' site, indicating its high conservation value.

Green group chief Monica Frassoni said the mast should not be constructed before a study assessing its environmental impact is completed. "Last year we asked the British government to stop the installation of more antennae in Akrotiri but obviously they have not been listening," she said.

London insists the antenna is not dangerous. Akrotiri is one of two 'sovereign bases' which the British Army retains in Cyprus. Its Royal Signals listening post is used to spy on countries such as Iraq and Iran.

http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/im ... 45241.aspx