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[erolz66]

Shutup re, these phrases are often used by your very 'tcs' on many other fora when you refer to gcs. You try to mske out you are an angle ffs.
Grow up, we dont need illegals here try to tell us about our own country. Bloody gypsy.

There is nothing like a well reasoned argument and the above is nothing like a well reasoned argument

I was talking about YOU B25, no one else and not about GC in general. I was pointing out the sublimely sweet irony of you bemoaning people thinking of you as racist, whilst in the very same sentence you use the phrase 'black cunts'. If you can show me anywhere in over 10 years and literally thousands of posts where I have used language that comes even remotely close to so clearly indicating a racist mind set as your phrase, Ill pack up and go away again for another good few years right now.

[Paphitis]

Maybe and just maybe, you were provoking him for such an outburst to support your racist segregationist partition of Cyprus!

Seriously!

Sorry let me just make sure I have got this right. You are suggesting that me commenting on B25's use of the phrase 'black cunts' whilst in the same sentence bemoaning how people regard him and other Cypriots as 'racist' was somehow my fault, and part of some 'plan' on my part to further the aim of permanent partition of Cyprus ? Is that what you are suggesting here ? Seriously ? Even though my comment came AFTER his use of the phrase 'Black Cunts' ?

And you are surprised when I suggest elsewhere a pattern from some posters here since my return of going to almost any length in order to deflect from any GC 'bad behaviour' ?

Seriously ?

Yes but i was referring to your anti Cypriot or anti GC posts with respect to Racial Profiling, and cruelty to animals etc.

The reaction of B25 came after that!

look, the use of "black cunts" is unfortunate, but it is a sentiment that is felt by many when confronted with stupid issues such as Racial profiling by Police. These types of issues are well known in countries like the US, since many people look for opportunities to attack the Police over race issues. it is getting rather tiresome.

The good thing is, Cypriots are getting a dose of this terrible medicine, so hopefully they can learn something before pointing fingers elsewhere.

[erolz66]

Your "TC perspective" against GCs is just like the White South African perspective of Cap. Cap is posting incidents involving black people to try to make a case against their whole race and excuse discriminations against them. He also thinks that apartheid in South Africa was a good thing. You and Lordo do the same against GCs.

Seriously ? Do you guys really believe the nonsense you come out with ? I honestly can not tell if you really actually believe this crap you are coming out with or not.

oh and btw have no idea who cap is by the way. B25, I do remember from my prior stints, and it was his 'black cunts' phrase whilst at the same time bemoaning how people label him and other Cypriots as racist that caught my eye.

Are there really not more Cypriots out there than can just say 'what B25 said is racist claptrap' or something similar and WITHOUT a 'but' follow up ? Really ? And if not what does this say about all of us as Cypriots together and racism in Cyprus generally ? Are we really so locked into this decades old animosity between ourselves as TC and GC that we would rather ignore or excuse away or try and deflect from such language that is so blatantly indicative of a racist mind set, rather than just condemn it, without reservation, regardless of which community the person who said it might be from ? Really ? Seriously ?

[erolz66]

Yes but i was referring to your anti Cypriot or anti GC posts with respect to Racial Profiling, and cruelty to animals etc.

OK let me make sure I have got this right then. Because I dare to suggest that Cypriots (and no where did I single out GC btw on this issue) might 'score badly' on the specific issue of illegal bird trapping and or that our elite Cypriot emergency response units should not in my view actually be going around stopping people who look foreign on the off chance they are either illegal immigrants or possible terrorists or both, I somehow 'incited' B25 to use that phrase in a totally different thread, that I had not even commented on at that point and what is more I did so with the specific intent of furthering some partitionist agenda that I allegedly have and that whilst B25's choice of phrase is 'unfortunate' it is somehow understandable an excused, either by my 'incitement' or by the fact that stop and search on sus has proven to be a deeply contentious issues in other countries almost always linked to accusations of institutionalised racism ?

Have I understood you correctly ? If I have then all I can only think of one thing to say right now. Seriously ?

[GreekIslandGirl]

I have more of a problem with the "c" word than the "b" word. In the English-speaking world, most men and many women use the "c" word. I abhor it - but realise it's coming into common usage. It's also generally acceptable to use the "b" word if someone is black. In that respect, B25 was like most men. It doesn't make him racist any more than it makes him sexist to use the "c" word. People swear for all sorts of reasons. He was swearing. In this context, if those people did rape and kill someone, it's normal to want to swear at them .... at the very least.

[erolz66]

I have more of a problem with the "c" word than the "b" word. In the English-speaking world, most men and many women use the "c" word. I abhor it - but realise it's coming into common usage. It's also generally acceptable to use the "b" word if someone is black. In that respect, B25 was like most men. It doesn't make him racist any more than it makes him sexist to use the "c" word. People swear for all sorts of reasons. He was swearing. In this context, if those people did rape and kill someone, it's normal to want to swear at them .... at the very least.

Seriously ? This is both comical and intensely sad and depressing at the same time. Is there no length you will not go to GIG to try and exonerate and excuse such behaviour if it comes from a GC ? Really !

Firstly the word 'black' is not inherently racist. If describing to someone who is meeting someone else for the first time you use a description along the lines of 'dave is a black guy about 5 10 tall and of medium build with short hair and natty goatee' that would not be being racist. B25 used the phrase 'black cunts' NOT in reference to people who allegedly had raped and killed someone but actually in reference to someone who was, by all accounts, in Cyprus totally legally and who ended up with a broken leg as a result of being stopped on 'sus' by members of Cyprus' elite rapid response unit. Again I really genuinely can not tell GIG if your misrepresentation that B25's use of the phrase 'black cunts' was in reference to those who had allegedly been involved in rape and murder is genuine or not. Did your brain somehow really lead you to that conclusion despite the clear and irrefutable evidence to the contrary ? Or was it knowing misrepresentation of clearly and irrefutable fact ? I really can not tell.

I do however have to post a small section form the Wikipedia entry on 'cognitive dissonance' - sorry.

Belief disconfirmation paradigm

Dissonance is aroused when people are confronted with information that is inconsistent with their beliefs. If the dissonance is not reduced by changing one's belief, the dissonance can result in restoring consonance through misperception, rejection or refutation of the information, seeking support from others who share the beliefs, and attempting to persuade others.

Ring any bells or strike any chords GIG ?

And finally as we appear to be on the subject of racism , care to explain your own references to the (legally in Cyprus) man with the broken legs trainers? From memory you made at least two such references but I could go look them up to absolutely sure. Care to expand on what THAT was all about ? Or consider if you would have made any such references if had happened to be white ?

[B25]

You don't care about the black guy legal or not, you are just using my ref to him to further your anti gc agenda.
Seriously, you just want ammunition and i gave it to you. I speak for myself not on behalf of the gc nation as a whole.
If one looks at your entry posts all you have done is to criticise the gcs for bird trapping and used an outburst of mine to insult and tar all gcs as racists. You have made no real contribution because you have nothing anyone wants to hear, so I guess i will leave you to your little game of RUM bashing if it makes you feel good.

[GreekIslandGirl]

And finally as we appear to be on the subject of racism , care to explain your own references to the (legally in Cyprus) man with the broken legs trainers? From memory you made at least two such references but I could go look them up to absolutely sure. Care to expand on what THAT was all about ? Or consider if you would have made any such references if had happened to be white ?

What do you have a problem with?

[Paphitis]

Yes but i was referring to your anti Cypriot or anti GC posts with respect to Racial Profiling, and cruelty to animals etc.

OK let me make sure I have got this right then. Because I dare to suggest that Cypriots (and no where did I single out GC btw on this issue) might 'score badly' on the specific issue of illegal bird trapping and or that our elite Cypriot emergency response units should not in my view actually be going around stopping people who look foreign on the off chance they are either illegal immigrants or possible terrorists or both, I somehow 'incited' B25 to use that phrase in a totally different thread, that I had not even commented on at that point and what is more I did so with the specific intent of furthering some partitionist agenda that I allegedly have and that whilst B25's choice of phrase is 'unfortunate' it is somehow understandable an excused, either by my 'incitement' or by the fact that stop and search on sus has proven to be a deeply contentious issues in other countries almost always linked to accusations of institutionalised racism ?

Have I understood you correctly ? If I have then all I can only think of one thing to say right now. Seriously ?

I think the RoC scored very highly with respect with the way the TRG tried to handle the situation involving the African dimwit! If only he cooperated fully when they asked him for his papers. He would have avoided the entire situation.

You can rest assured that in Australia (it is more civilized according to you), the police would not have been so soft and neither would they tolerate it in the "civilized" USA.

And I have never heard of a country where the TRG can't do the more normal types of police work. A copper is always on duty.

He was resisting arrest.

It is getting ridiculous how this race card is used so often when the victim has only themselves to blame. At least Cypriots just got their first taste of this nonsense which is almost a daily occurrence in Australia and USA.

[Jerry]

This has to be one of the most disturbing clips I have ever seen. How that poor woman must have suffered, first humiliated and then brutally stoned whilst others just drive by.

Nine people have posted on this thread, unless I have missed something not one of them has commented on or expressed sympathy for the poor victim of this brutal assault because they are too busy bitching about racism and how it relates to the Cyprus problem.

Is it any wonder the world appears not to care about about the CP when we show such little sympathy for others.