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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby kurupetos » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:40 am

Lordo wrote:If a TC has property in the south which is now under the control of the trnc, the issue is very simple. there will be exchange and they should not get any compensation as they have had the use of a gc property.

what i want to know is what will be the level of compensation for those who lost property to the other side but refused to accept other peoples property and did not exchange.

They will receive an IKEA coupon. :lol:
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:57 am

Lordo wrote:If a TC has property in the south which is now under the control of the trnc, the issue is very simple. there will be exchange and they should not get any compensation as they have had the use of a gc property.

what i want to know is what will be the level of compensation for those who lost property to the other side but refused to accept other peoples property and did not exchange.


You are obviously referring to Kibrislis who "lost" their properties in the RoC controlled area, but refused to accept other peoples property and did not exchange.
There are no "lost" properties in the RoC controlled areas.If you have a Kocan for the property you get it back immediately with a solution. If the property is inhabited then the same things we said above. If the property was used by the State and is among those few that were expropriated (and declared as such at the Gazette) you get compensation according to the value it had at expropriation date plus interest.
If they were not expropriated in time, then you are really lucky.They will have to expropriate them IMMEDIATELY and you will get current value compensation.
Good luck to you if you are one of those.
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:03 am

Viewpoint wrote:Time will give us more information about how it will be resolved and then we can all evaluate the pros and cons otherwise we are just making things up as we go along. I hear that Güzelyurt will not be given to the GC state as was the case in the AP.


According to the Anan Plan Morfou would be returned to the GCs but NOT THE ORCHARDS of Morfou.
Now ask any Kypreo or Kibrisli who lived in this place before 1974 to tell you what's the worth of Morfou without the Orchards....

Hmmm... nothing?
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Flying Horse » Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:11 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Time will give us more information about how it will be resolved and then we can all evaluate the pros and cons otherwise we are just making things up as we go along. I hear that Güzelyurt will not be given to the GC state as was the case in the AP.


According to the Anan Plan Morfou would be returned to the GCs but NOT THE ORCHARDS of Morfou.
Now ask any Kypreo or Kibrisli who lived in this place before 1974 to tell you what's the worth of Morfou without the Orchards....

Hmmm... nothing?

Sweet FA without the orchards.
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby boulio » Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:24 am

Viewpoint wrote:Time will give us more information about how it will be resolved and then we can all evaluate the pros and cons otherwise we are just making things up as we go along. I hear that Güzelyurt will not be given to the GC state as was the case in the AP.


May I ask how will you make up the difference?in karpasia or ammohostos area?because the morphou area in the the annan plan was quite a bit of land.
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:40 am

So from all the discussion above we can clearly see that the joint declaration is far from a solution and that pretty much everything is still up in the air, so ı wouldnt get to excited as we have a knack of arguing over the smallest of issues for decades with no end result....Cypriots on both sides of the border are idiots.
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Flying Horse » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:26 am

Viewpoint wrote:So from all the discussion above we can clearly see that the joint declaration is far from a solution and that pretty much everything is still up in the air, so ı wouldnt get to excited as we have a knack of arguing over the smallest of issues for decades with no end result....Cypriots on both sides of the border are idiots.


Start with something simple then. Quite psychological. The green line.
Remove that first. Physical barriers that have an impact on all. Everyone hates it. Surely folk can agree on that?
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Maximus » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:39 am

Flying Horse wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So from all the discussion above we can clearly see that the joint declaration is far from a solution and that pretty much everything is still up in the air, so ı wouldnt get to excited as we have a knack of arguing over the smallest of issues for decades with no end result....Cypriots on both sides of the border are idiots.


Start with something simple then. Quite psychological. The green line.
Remove that first. Physical barriers that have an impact on all. Everyone hates it. Surely folk can agree on that?


I doubt it. This physical barrier will be removed when the Turkish army leave. The psychological barrier will disappear when something is done about it.

Under the current status quo, Turkey controls immigration to the north and not the RoC and the European commission. Just removing this barrier may pose a security and illegal immigration risk.
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Flying Horse » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:45 am

I was trying to ignore that part. Assuming nobody likes that barrier there, an attempt at agreement on something failed again :-(

Bloody hate feeling like a paranoid criminal going through.
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Re: The Joint Declaration Released Today...

Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:11 pm

Direct Flights?
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