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[Viewpoint]

I am not optimistic no, but for very different reasons than you.

Prey tell, because the public on this side does not take these talks very seriously or believes there will ever be a solution.

[Maximus]

I am not optimistic no, but for very different reasons than you.

Prey tell, because the public on this side does not take these talks very seriously or believes there will ever be a solution.

What do you want me to tell you? It is common knowledge to those that follow this that the "TRNC" drives at becoming an independent sovereign state.

[Jerry]

Wİthout arbitration and deadlines our moronic leaders on both sides of the fence will go around in circles for the next zillion years. Imho there also has to be penalities if a solution is not reached.

VP if arbitration was applied to the Cyprus problem according to international law then it would be worse for you than the AP and the GCs would have most if not all of their claims/demands met. Arbitration means agreeing to be bound by the decision of the arbitrator, the UN has been a mediator in Cyprus. You confuse the word arbitration for compromise.

The ROC would, I'm sure, welcome arbitration provided it was based on the principles on which the UN, EU and other bodies were founded rather than Turkey's law of the jungle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitration

[Lordo]

the only laws that apply are the decisions by the echr clarifying a home and a house from the legal stand point of you and thats all we need. problem solved.

[Viewpoint]

Wİthout arbitration and deadlines our moronic leaders on both sides of the fence will go around in circles for the next zillion years. Imho there also has to be penalities if a solution is not reached.

VP if arbitration was applied to the Cyprus problem according to international law then it would be worse for you than the AP and the GCs would have most if not all of their claims/demands met. Arbitration means agreeing to be bound by the decision of the arbitrator, the UN has been a mediator in Cyprus. You confuse the word arbitration for compromise.

The ROC would, I'm sure, welcome arbitration provided it was based on the principles on which the UN, EU and other bodies were founded rather than Turkey's law of the jungle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitration

Arbitration was used in the AP and you rejected it, so what you are claiming is a contradiction.

[Viewpoint]

I am not optimistic no, but for very different reasons than you.

Prey tell, because the public on this side does not take these talks very seriously or believes there will ever be a solution.

What do you want me to tell you? It is common knowledge to those that follow this that the "TRNC" drives at becoming an independent sovereign state.

Maxi you have to get things into perspective if it can be proven that unifying will be far more beneficial than getting the TRNC recognized what do you think people will vote? Todate the GCs have made an absolutely pigs ear of this angel and people on this side of the fence believe that unification will only benefit the GCs by handing the whole island to them on a plate. When has your side being recognized ever stated with specifics how life will be far better for TCs if they unite?

[Maximus]

I am not optimistic no, but for very different reasons than you.

Prey tell, because the public on this side does not take these talks very seriously or believes there will ever be a solution.

What do you want me to tell you? It is common knowledge to those that follow this that the "TRNC" drives at becoming an independent sovereign state.

Maxi you have to get things into perspective if it can be proven that unifying will be far more beneficial than getting the TRNC recognized what do you think people will vote?

I agree, the people in the north want a separate state because it serves their interests and only their interests but this does not serve the interests of Cypriots. Your perspective serves Turkey's interests, the interests of Turkish citizens that have been transferred there and the carpetbaggers.

Your alternative is apartheid through the status quo, which does not serve the interests of Cypriots either.

[Viewpoint]

I am not optimistic no, but for very different reasons than you.

Prey tell, because the public on this side does not take these talks very seriously or believes there will ever be a solution.

What do you want me to tell you? It is common knowledge to those that follow this that the "TRNC" drives at becoming an independent sovereign state.

Maxi you have to get things into perspective if it can be proven that unifying will be far more beneficial than getting the TRNC recognized what do you think people will vote?

I agree, the people in the north want a separate state because it serves their interests and only their interests but this does not serve the interests of Cypriots. Your perspective serves Turkey's interests, the interests of Turkish citizens that have been transferred there and the carpetbaggers.

Your alternative is apartheid through the status quo, which does not serve the interests of Cypriots either.

You are totally wrong in this statement, its only human nature that people accept a far better deal....isnt what you are offering better than what we have today??? if it is then prove it.

[Maximus]

I agree with you!

From the perspective of the people (+ Turkey) north of the ceasefire line, the best deal is a separate recognized state. This IS what they want.

[Viewpoint]

I agree with you!

From the perspective of the people (+ Turkey) north of the ceasefire line, the best deal is a separate recognized state. This IS what they want.

So what you are saying is that what you offer falls short of a recognized TRNC...then if you were us what would you choose?