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[Paphitis]

The ADV Ocean Shield left Fremantle only 3 days ago for another long deployment. With her is Royal Australian Navy Ship HMAS Success which is a supply ship so the deployment will be another long one.

Also in the area are 2 Royal Australian Navy Frigates along with United States Navy support, and other ships from China. The Malaysians are also involved somewhere.

This is going to be a long haul so I wouldn't expect to hear anything and the JACC will be enjoying the lack of media attention. It is exactly the way the Australians would like it until they discover something.

A review of the data was completed in Canberra. Boeing, JACC, IIT, ATSB, and NTSB were involved with this, including Inmarsat. The search has still redeployed into the same area.

They are entering the next phase and are using AF447 as the model. They are about to deploy side scan sonar and the best submersibles from private firms which were responsible for finding AF447 after 2 long years of searching. Negotiations are currently underway between the Australian Government and private firms that were even involved in the AF447 search.

And Kikapu, I don't appreciate the sarcasm. It is a stroke of very good fortune that Australia is leading this International Effort. It seems that only the most committed of nations will stick this through(Australia, China, Malaysia and US).

The ADF has the equipment and the smarts to find MH370. They will give it one hell if a go in any case and have covered a lot of territory. They are the best, along with the Israelis. Best military in the world. Again and again they always pull something out of their hat.

Just like 108 soldiers that stood at Long Tan against 10,000 North Vietnamese soldiers. There was no surrender even against impossible odds. 3000 North Vietnamese soldiers were killed before they retreated from 108 Australian Soldiers. The Turks know full well what they faced against Australian Soldiers. There are some countries you just wouldn't want to fight against. One of those is Australia.

[Paphitis]

Haven't heard anything on MH370 lately. Has it been found already or what?

Actually, I'm still interested to know whether or not the Aussies, the much praised by our good friend Paphitis as being best in the world in what ever they do, have found that floating debris seen by their satellite that was 12m x 24m in the Southern Indian Ocean almost 2 months ago!

The question also still stands, and that is, how is it possible that a large jetliner completely disappear with over 200 people aboard in this day and age?

Surely common sense says, that the plane landing somewhere and hidden or shot down for entering into sensitive military areas is much more a possibility than it crashing somewhere on a suicide mission, considering the MH370's circumstances that it was deliberately removed from being traced by anyone on the ground after an hour into it's flight, because, the likelihood of finding the crash site, even if it was on a suicide mission, would have been much easier to find than if it was shot down at a military zone or hidden on the ground after landing safely, no?

Don't worry about Satellites either. Australia has plenty of them that cross cross the planet with the most powerful cameras that exist.

But that's not what I am concerned with. I am more pre-occupied with the JORN Radar network. The area in which MH370 is said to have flown through is right slap bang in the middle and within range of the most sophisticated radar network on the planet. A B2 or an F22 is unable to avoid detection because this radar bounces HF signals from the ionosphere and deflects the energy downwards thus circumventing and bypassing Stealth Technologies which are only Stealth on the underside of the aircraft but not from the top. Hence it can also detect boats greater than 30m on the surface.

There is no shadow from the earth's curvature, hence no avoiding detection down to OFT!

Satellites and radar is what they rely on as a force multiplier. That and electronic warfare, or the ability to JAM foreign Radar, and Comms. They have the ability to shut Turkey down where its weapons are rendered useless.

Put it this way! I would be very surprised if Australia did not detect MH370 on its fateful journey south. They know the area in which it crashed.

[Kikapu]

And Kikapu, I don't appreciate the sarcasm. It is a stroke of very good fortune that Australia is leading this International Effort. It seems that only the most committed of nations will stick this through(Australia, China, Malaysia and US).

Oh lighten up, Paphitis. We don't get upset when you call some of us stupid, clueless or having rocks for brains!

[Paphitis]

And Kikapu, I don't appreciate the sarcasm. It is a stroke of very good fortune that Australia is leading this International Effort. It seems that only the most committed of nations will stick this through(Australia, China, Malaysia and US).

Oh lighten up, Paphitis. We don't get upset when you call some of us stupid, clueless or having rocks for brains!

I didn't say that to anyone except for Pyro who deserved it because he was all over the place and misinterpreting posts etc and that even was only after extensive provocation because if you go back you will find that it was actually he that was calling me names.

[Kikapu]

But that's not what I am concerned with. I am more pre-occupied with the JORN Radar network. The area in which MH370 is said to have flown through is right slap bang in the middle and within range of the most sophisticated radar network on the planet. A B2 or an F22 is unable to avoid detection because this radar bounces HF signals from the ionosphere and deflects the energy downwards thus circumventing and bypassing Stealth Technologies which are only Stealth on the underside of the aircraft but not from the top. Hence it can also detect boats greater than 30m on the surface.

That being the case Paphitis, then why doesn't the Aussies come clean if they detected MH370? I mean, what would be the secret acknowledging that their technology being able to trace a civil aviation aircraft when you are telling us that they can detect the most sophisticated stealth military aircrafts such as the B-2 and the F-22 and most probably the F-117 and the future F-35.

Makes no sense to me at all.

[Kikapu]

And Kikapu, I don't appreciate the sarcasm. It is a stroke of very good fortune that Australia is leading this International Effort. It seems that only the most committed of nations will stick this through(Australia, China, Malaysia and US).

Oh lighten up, Paphitis. We don't get upset when you call some of us stupid, clueless or having rocks for brains!

I didn't say that to anyone except for Pyro who deserved it because he was all over the place and misinterpreting posts etc and that even was only after extensive provocation because if you go back you will find that it was actually he that was calling me names.

Well, I was actually talking about myself, but it's not unexpected when so many opinions are expressed on the MH370 topic. You had your professional and patriotic opinions most of the time and I had my good common sense and most probability opinions. Bottom line is, thus far no one has been proven wrong or correct with their opinions as to what happened to flight MH370.

[Paphitis]

And Kikapu, I don't appreciate the sarcasm. It is a stroke of very good fortune that Australia is leading this International Effort. It seems that only the most committed of nations will stick this through(Australia, China, Malaysia and US).

Oh lighten up, Paphitis. We don't get upset when you call some of us stupid, clueless or having rocks for brains!

I didn't say that to anyone except for Pyro who deserved it because he was all over the place and misinterpreting posts etc and that even was only after extensive provocation because if you go back you will find that it was actually he that was calling me names.

Well, I was actually talking about myself, but it's not unexpected when so many opinions are expressed on the MH370 topic. You had your professional and patriotic opinions most of the time and I had my good common sense and most probability opinions. Bottom line is, thus far no one has been proven wrong or correct with their opinions as to what happened to flight MH370.

Sorry but I don't recall this.

It's not about patriotic opinions at all. I know what they are capable of and I know the types of technology they have, some of which is highly secret.

Kikapu, my money is with the Australians on this and that has been the case from day 1!

[Paphitis]

But that's not what I am concerned with. I am more pre-occupied with the JORN Radar network. The area in which MH370 is said to have flown through is right slap bang in the middle and within range of the most sophisticated radar network on the planet. A B2 or an F22 is unable to avoid detection because this radar bounces HF signals from the ionosphere and deflects the energy downwards thus circumventing and bypassing Stealth Technologies which are only Stealth on the underside of the aircraft but not from the top. Hence it can also detect boats greater than 30m on the surface.

That being the case Paphitis, then why doesn't the Aussies come clean if they detected MH370? I mean, what would be the secret acknowledging that their technology being able to trace a civil aviation aircraft when you are telling us that they can detect the most sophisticated stealth military aircrafts such as the B-2 and the F-22 and most probably the F-117 and the future F-35.

Makes no sense to me at all.

There is no f&@king way they will come clean on any of this stuff. They do not even admit the true capability of JORN. I am only telling you because I know their radar can detect any aircraft that is currently flying today including all the aircraft types you mention. The Yanks know it too.

The F35 can be detected as well as the B2, F111 at 50FT (they have tested this) with all terrain following radar, and F22.

The issue is that they will reveal the true range of their radar which is information that no official organ has released ever!

[Kikapu]

The issue is that they will reveal the true range of their radar which is information that no official organ has released ever!

I admit, that the secrecy of the above would make sense to me, then they should know where the MH370 crashed in the Southern Indian Ocean if the range of detection goes as far from Australia as where the search has been going on for the last 2 months, but they have nothing to show for. Then it raises questions as to why they were looking at the wrong place initially at the “Roaring Forties” or are the Aussies playing the bluff game in trying to make others think that their JORN Radar Network can reach as far as where the search for MH370 is going on?

Perhaps JORN is not as good as you think it is, Paphitis.

[GreekIslandGirl]

What a joke of an excuse for spending 2 months looking in the wrong place. They don't really want to find it because they might look effective and capable! lol

Any news on the land searches they said were going to be carried out?