GreekIslandGirl wrote:And finally, what all rational beings came to suspect was the case ....
Relatives of the passengers of Malaysia Airlines MH370 have been dealt a fresh blow with news that pings heard in waters off the Australian coast are thought to be unrelated to the missing plane.
The Orion Crews would have been spending a lot of time hunting for that Sub because that is what they are primed for.
In any case, why would the Orions be hunting for subs in International waters when they were assigned to be looking for MH370?
A British sub was in the MH370 search area in International waters, so what did the Orions do about it?
They wouldn't be hunting but the Orions always fly with their full compliment of 14 Airmen which means they are fully capable of detecting any Submarine which may be lurking in the area. This is a capability the fleet prides itself on. There is little point in these aircraft flying without getting the full benefit of all the sensors (ELINT and MAD) and that means they are always on the search for Submarines, Russian Submarines in particular. Other Submarines they would be looking for would be Chinese Submarines and all this stuff occurs simultaneously. Basically, if an Orion is out in the Indian Ocean, then they are looking for Submarines. A police officer looking for a Bank Robber would still be on the lookout for other criminals whilst on the beat.
Now let's say for argument sake that a Russian Typhoon Class Nuclear Submarine was detected in the area whilst this search is on. The search would then be abandoned by the Orion and the aircraft will stalk the Russian Submarine until replaced and other support will be derived from the US, UK or whoever. Let's say they detected a British Submarine in the area, then the British Ministry of Defence will get a nice little post card in the mail (I kid you not). Not only can they detect and listen to the Sub, but they can sink it (yes Orions can be fully armed with all kinds of weapons including Depth Chargers and Air to Surface Anti Shipping). In the old days, they would follow Russian Submarines all over the globe and the prime objective was Nuclear Strike Early Warning. Basically, if an Orion detected a Russian Submarine launching an ICBM, then this information is relayed back in real time, and before you know it, in all likelihood, unless cooler heads prevail, the US will also launch. That was in the day of the Cold War but this kind of thing kind of ceased a bit in the mid nineties.
An Orion is not the only means of detecting a launch. Satellites can as well.
The Orions are about to be replaced with these at $500 million each:
So, the MH370 search is not going to be as costly to the Aussies as we were led to believe few weeks ago by our good friend, Paphitis.
Australia has committed up to $US90 million ($97 million) towards the search operation over two years.
Kikapu,
yhe Australians are spending $90 million on the search moving forward from now. That is how much has been allocated in the budget for the next financial year.
It does not include what has already been spent which is about $40 to $50 million up until now.
It also does not include what other countries have spent such as China, US, UK, Japan, NZ and South Korea. If you include all of that, then the figure is closer to $100 million.
The missing Malaysia Airlines plane is not in the Indian Ocean search zone where underwater “pings” were detected, the Australian search authorities have announced, after a US navy officer cast doubt on whether the signals were from a plane's black box flight recorder.
Embarrassing for the Aussies or what?
“Our best theory at this point is that [the pings were] likely some sound produced by the ship [the Ocean Shield] ... or within the electronics of the towed pinger locator,” the US navy’s deputy director of ocean engineering, Michael Dean, told CNN.
Expect much face-saving to be going on by the antipodeans, but hopefully the search can now move on to a productive stage, for the sake of the too-long-tortured relatives.
The missing Malaysia Airlines plane is not in the Indian Ocean search zone where underwater “pings” were detected, the Australian search authorities have announced, after a US navy officer cast doubt on whether the signals were from a plane's black box flight recorder.
Embarrassing for the Aussies or what?
“Our best theory at this point is that [the pings were] likely some sound produced by the ship [the Ocean Shield] ... or within the electronics of the towed pinger locator,” the US navy’s deputy director of ocean engineering, Michael Dean, told CNN.
Expect much face-saving to be going on by the antipodeans, but hopefully the search can now move on to a productive stage, for the sake of the too-long-tortured relatives.
God you are so full of crap! The Australian Transport Safety Authority declared that MH370 was not at the location where pings were detected after Bluefin 21 finished searching the entire 850 sq km area. There is nothing embarrassing about it at all. Now the search continues on a much more vast 56000 sq km area along the handshake arc.
No one said the aircraft was there, but that there were leads that had to be followed up on and that is what the JACC did.
This is a long term search that could go on for years. They have approved funding for the next 2 years a minimum as the search moves along the Inmarsat Handshake arc. Can you tell me what is so embarrassing about it and why you have such a sick mind in finding glee that the aircraft has not been found.
You're a disgusting creature that's for sure. Lucky I sussed you a long time ago!
So, the MH370 search is not going to be as costly to the Aussies as we were led to believe few weeks ago by our good friend, Paphitis.
Australia has committed up to $US90 million ($97 million) towards the search operation over two years.
Kikapu,
yhe Australians are spending $90 million on the search moving forward from now. That is how much has been allocated in the budget for the next financial year.
It does not include what has already been spent which is about $40 to $50 million up until now.
It also does not include what other countries have spent such as China, US, UK, Japan, NZ and South Korea. If you include all of that, then the figure is closer to $100 million.
Well, most of the equipment used in the search of MH370 had been military equipment and hardware, regardless which countries were involved, which most of the cost would have occurred anyway regardless where they were used, since the Orions specially are on a constant submarine lookout according to you. The MH370 was just added to their list of things to do while out there. The so called allocated funds for the future so called search of the MH370 will too be spent on military equipment doing what they do at any given day.
It is a little slap in the face for the Aussies, since they took the initiative to try and find the MH370 in their own "backyard", because they made everyone believe that's where the plane had crashed with so called sightings of debris by satellites and so called Black Box ping signals, despite all pings coming from different locations, but it did not stop the Aussie PM declaring to the world that they had found the Black Boxes because of those pings. Perhaps they should have used more common sense in their pursuit to be proven right. Perhaps they should have read some of the objective comment written here on the Cyprus Forum.
