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[Maximus]

So you now agree that the EU is not impartial be it good or bad? then you agree with Özersay.

I agree that the EU is not impartial but this does not mean I have to agree with Ozersay. The EU's impartiality is right and correct, Ozersay's is wrong and incorrect.

But you do agree with Özersay, he claims they are not impartial and so do you...that makes them a party which is never acceptable in negotiations as it brings about an unfiar advantage to one side. Thats why you see no problems because its favors your side.

NO, I completely disagree with Ozersay and completely agree with the EU.

The EU are treating the TC's fairly but Ozersay is not treating the EU or the GC's fairly at all.

Make up your mind you just stated for everyone to read the EU cannot be impartial because you are a member and a side to the Cyprus problem, thats the exact same thing that Özersay is saying...so you agree bloody hell its not rocket science. The point you make excuses for is that act in your favor so of course you claim they are right.

I was momentarily confused, however, what Ozersay is proposing will never work. He is basically acting like a sneak and trying to cement partition contrary to EU and international laws, with the EU's help and money of course, while trying to keep them in the dark. Ozersay is naïve at best and a complete plank at worst if he expects the EU to take him seriously. He is basically a carbon copy of Erdogan and we all know how well that is going with the EU. This is probably how the EU see it too.

Can you answer the question I posed earlier? How is his proposition to the EU going to motivate the GC's towards a solution, when it does not address or reconcile the TC's position of illegality or anything that matters to the GC's or the EU regarding the Cyprus problem.

[Lordo]

what is it with the average gc swine that refuses to see realities. lets get some basic facts.

hiding behind eu law to take control of the north aint gona happen. you will have no say in what happens in the north ever. now go play with your pirilli gavolon.

[Demonax]

what Ozersay is proposing will never work. He is basically acting like a sneak and trying to cement partition contrary to EU and international laws, with the EU's help and money of course, while trying to keep them in the dark. Ozersay is naïve at best and a complete plank at worst if he expects the EU to take him seriously...

Spot on, Maximus. The GCs and the UN negotiators know this of course and aren't falling for it. Neither are the EU. It's been made clear to the TCs that the EU acquis will apply throughout the whole island. The best the TCs can hope for are some short-term derogations. But there is no chance that the GCs will accept any permanent derogations as part of an apartheid ‘solution’.

[Lordo]

what Ozersay is proposing will never work. He is basically acting like a sneak and trying to cement partition contrary to EU and international laws, with the EU's help and money of course, while trying to keep them in the dark. Ozersay is naïve at best and a complete plank at worst if he expects the EU to take him seriously...

Spot on, Maximus. The GCs and the UN negotiators know this of course and aren't falling for it. Neither are the EU. It's been made clear to the TCs that the EU acquis will apply throughout the whole island. The best the TCs can hope for are some short-term derogations. But there is no chance that the GCs will accept any permanent derogations as part of an apartheid ‘solution’.

of course it will now go play with your pirilli.

get it into your thick heads. there is no eu law. it is what we make it. no control in the north. govolo boses fores. you will learn it even if gr has to learn it to you.

[Demonax]

there is no eu law. it is what we make it.

Spoken like a true Turk.

Unfortunately, you cannot escape the law. It will be the end of your pirate existence. Better get used to it!

[zan]

there is no eu law. it is what we make it.

Spoken like a true Turk.

Unfortunately, you cannot escape the law. It will be the end of your pirate existence. Better get used to it!

As Vp has already said, the EU have already bent the law by accepting a divided island into the EU when its own laws says it should not, so I would be less excited if I were you They are now asking us to play along with that illegality


Ozersay is your best bet guys. He is no fool. Despite having had his father and his brother executed against a wall......... and dealing with you guys for nearly twenty years, he did not have a bad word to say against the GCs, when I met him. Only desperate to break through the GC intransigence.

[boulio]

there is no eu law. it is what we make it.

Spoken like a true Turk.

Unfortunately, you cannot escape the law. It will be the end of your pirate existence. Better get used to it!

As Vp has already said, the EU have already bent the law by accepting a divided island into the EU when its own laws says it should not, so I would be less excited if I were you They are now asking us to play along with that illegality


Ozersay is your best bet guys. He is no fool. Despite having had his father and his brother executed against a wall......... and dealing with you guys for nearly twenty years, he did not have a bad word to say against the GCs, when I met him. Only desperate to break through the GC intransigence.

Primary EU Law may not be broken,only suspended temporarily,either it be a few days or a few years.They will not make A NEW SET OF LAWS fore the TC.

Can you give me a few examples of GC Intransigence?

[Viewpoint]

there is no eu law. it is what we make it.

Spoken like a true Turk.

Unfortunately, you cannot escape the law. It will be the end of your pirate existence. Better get used to it!

As Vp has already said, the EU have already bent the law by accepting a divided island into the EU when its own laws says it should not, so I would be less excited if I were you They are now asking us to play along with that illegality


Ozersay is your best bet guys. He is no fool. Despite having had his father and his brother executed against a wall......... and dealing with you guys for nearly twenty years, he did not have a bad word to say against the GCs, when I met him. Only desperate to break through the GC intransigence.

Primary EU Law may not be broken,only suspended temporarily,either it be a few days or a few years.They will not make A NEW SET OF LAWS fore the TC.

Can you give me a few examples of GC Intransigence?

Repetatively going over covered ground and issues that have already been agreed...this is well known GC tactic.

[Viewpoint]

You are very lucky to have Özersay hes very amicable and pro solution I can think of many TCs that would just mess with you and fuel your intragience.

[boulio]

specific examples please, what has been agreed?parts of the governence was agreed but the tc didnt want cross voting so we are back to square one.