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Re: President: Turkey a Client not a Partner

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:19 pm

Demonax wrote:
Lordo wrote:how bloody else can we guarantee you will not attack us in the future.


By behaving yourselves and being good democrats. You might also consider urging Turkey to return all the GCs property and land they currently occupy. That would help you a lot. Otherwise you're right. You're going to need to be protected from the vengeance and resentment of the majority population who won’t take kindly to seeing their property handed over to TC looters and Turkish settlers.

A fair solution is the best guarantee for Turkish Cypriots.



This wasnt the case in the past and doesnt bode well for any future solution, you cannot ask us to jump without a safety net, we do not trust you nor do you trust us.
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Re: President: Turkey a Client not a Partner

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:23 pm

boulio wrote:VP when theY say for Turkey to "give up"cyprus thisis not necasseraly bad for the TC.Most parties and leaderships are committed to a bbf for the last 35 years.TC will get a federation in a solution they will not go to enclaves like they did in the 1960s.However the federation will need to be a federation that will be able to fuction and exist in the EU.There can be some derogations over a transitional period but those will only for a small period of time.The gurantors rights im afraid are outdated and will either need to be heavily revised or completley abolished.There will be no bvirgin birth just a restructering of the ROC OF 1960 TO the new agrement.


If you were a TC and the derrogations ending meant that the island could easily be turned into a GC state with TCs reduced to just another minority how would that make you feel towards such absured demands. When will you understand will not jump into the fire because you demand we do.
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Re: President: Turkey a Client not a Partner

Postby boulio » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:29 pm

how will the tc be a minority ?you will have the northern state to run. the more territory given back the less gc will come to your state.
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Re: President: Turkey a Client not a Partner

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:34 pm

boulio wrote:how will the tc be a minority ?you will have the northern state to run. the more territory given back the less gc will come to your state.


If you see the danger signs would you as a negotiator not object or oppose such matters? the GCs have never negotiated in good faith, do you honest believe they have the best interests of the TCs at heart? please be honest.
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Re: President: Turkey a Client not a Partner

Postby boulio » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:39 pm

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boulio wrote:how will the tc be a minority ?you will have the northern state to run. the more territory given back the less gc will come to your state.


If you see the danger signs would you as a negotiator not object or oppose such matters? the GCs have never negotiated in good faith, do you honest believe they have the best interests of the TCs at heart? please be honest.



i think they have the best interest of all cypriots at heart not just one community.i THINK ANY SOLUTION needs to be workable and satisfactory to everyone or it will fall apart.by not allowing people to move,work,live freely in all the island is asking for trouble again.By cconstatly putting restrictions and depriving pwoplw of their rights as citizens and looking after the the interest of settlers first and cypriots both gc and tc second you will end up with a non workable agreement.
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Re: President: Turkey a Client not a Partner

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:44 pm

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boulio wrote:how will the tc be a minority ?you will have the northern state to run. the more territory given back the less gc will come to your state.


If you see the danger signs would you as a negotiator not object or oppose such matters? the GCs have never negotiated in good faith, do you honest believe they have the best interests of the TCs at heart? please be honest.



i think they have the best interest of all cypriots at heart not just one community.i THINK ANY SOLUTION needs to be workable and satisfactory to everyone or it will fall apart.by not allowing people to move,work,live freely in all the island is asking for trouble again.By cconstatly putting restrictions and depriving pwoplw of their rights as citizens and looking after the the interest of settlers first and cypriots both gc and tc second you will end up with a non workable agreement.


The Tcs are not objecting to the issues you raise, dont believe your own propaganda outlets. So you would object to issues you felt were putting your side at a disadvantage or could in the future place one side in grave danger.
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Re: President: Turkey a Client not a Partner

Postby Get Real! » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:32 pm

Viewpoint wrote:You obviously need to be remined of 1974, do you enjoy bashing your head against a brick wall.....just tell you leader to cut the bravado the big boys are in town.

Who are the "big boys"? :lol:
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Re: President: Turkey a Client not a Partner

Postby Viewpoint » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:36 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:You obviously need to be remined of 1974, do you enjoy bashing your head against a brick wall.....just tell you leader to cut the bravado the big boys are in town.

Who are the "big boys"? :lol:


Try and keep up GR.
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Re: President: Turkey a Client not a Partner

Postby Demonax » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:38 am

boulio wrote:I THINK ANY SOLUTION needs to be workable and satisfactory to everyone or it will fall apart.by not allowing people to move,work,live freely in all the island is asking for trouble again.By cconstatly putting restrictions and depriving people of their rights as citizens and looking after the the interest of settlers first and cypriots both gc and tc second you will end up with a non workable agreement.


Exactly. TCs demanding to restrict the rights of Cypriot citizens and to legalise the plunder of land and property, is a sure-fire way to guarantee instability, resentment and violence. It seems they want a 'guarantee' to protect them from the consequences of their own greed and larceny. This is political immaturity of the kind we have come to expect of the TCs.
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Re: President: Turkey a Client not a Partner

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:11 am

boulio wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
boulio wrote:how will the tc be a minority ?you will have the northern state to run. the more territory given back the less gc will come to your state.


If you see the danger signs would you as a negotiator not object or oppose such matters? the GCs have never negotiated in good faith, do you honest believe they have the best interests of the TCs at heart? please be honest.



i think they have the best interest of all cypriots at heart not just one community.i THINK ANY SOLUTION needs to be workable and satisfactory to everyone or it will fall apart.by not allowing people to move,work,live freely in all the island is asking for trouble again.By cconstatly putting restrictions and depriving pwoplw of their rights as citizens and looking after the the interest of settlers first and cypriots both gc and tc second you will end up with a non workable agreement.


...well said boulio.
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