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[MrH]

The Greek Cypriots cannot continue to portray Cyprus as a pure multicultural/republic when at its helm sits the Greek Flag from Greece, the Cyprus flag (which was funny enough founded and designed by a Turk) and a strong Orthodox [and very influential] Archbishop lead system. The EU know this very well and Turkey always wins at the negotiating table in proving that a Two State system is the only way to move forward. I am guessing that the give-away here is how long it's taken to reach any kind of Comprehensive solution since 1963 (with a conflict in between it in 1974), the acceptance of the Cease-Fire line as a border manned by the UN, the EU accepting (in terms of effective control only) the Southern part of the Island, and the compelling of the TWO Cypriot leaders around a table year on year. As I have said for many years, the fact that the Greek Cypriots are sitting at a "Negotiating" table for the resumption of the Cyprus problem based on a BBF (accepted) basis proves to any 5 year old that the current Greek Cypriot lead "Republic of Cyprus" will one day be Dissolved and replaced with a United Cyprus Republic with a completely different governmental system including Turkish/and Greek members completely autonomous in their own organs. Unless, of course, you accept a Two Republic formula of the "Republic of Cyprus" and the "TRNC"? The choice is yours. If disputed, obviously by the Greek Cypriot people in this forum, then tell me why the UN based Cyprus Talks have been going on for so long (or allowed!) and how the TRNC has been the sole Government in the North since the birth of my second born child - whose Degree from EMU-Famagusta was accepted for a Masters program at the University of California (UCLA)?

If still disputed then consider this one last point, and this is in respect to a question the Greek Cypriots ask themselves everyday: Why is Turkey allowed to (in Greek Cypriot terms only) Occupy the TRNC, when there are many other similar examples around the world where such a scenario has seen the intervention of the U.S and others act against it? You could say the same thing about why Russia has been allowed to Annex Crimea, being that no will ever attempt to act against it (as similar to Turkey with Cyprus), but I am sure the U.S could have in Turkey's case? If it is a higher level of a reason, and the reason why it's lasted for so long, then any chance of a Comprehensive solution that the Greek Cypriots are asking for is never going to ever happen. On the flip side, the longer it takes to secure a comprehensive solution the more Turkish people from Turkey are settling on the island - which will one day become an overall Majority if Turkish PM Erdogan gets his way, which is evidently happening (read the latest comments by TRNC President Eroglu) - not that I am campaigning of course!

[boulio]

MrH you have no idea what your talking about.

[Viewpoint]

MrH the "RoC" will probably have to evolve into a BBF with a new consitution that would provide for the structure necessary to address all the issues on the negotiating table right now.

[boulio]

MrH the "RoC" will probably have to evolve into a BBF with a new consitution that would provide for the structure necessary to address all the issues on the negotiating table right now.

VP You are correct,the federal ROC will be the succsesor of the old ROC,CYPRUS IS NOT going to reapply to all the organizations ie EU,UN,FIFA all over again.

[DT.]

MrH the "RoC" will probably have to evolve into a BBF with a new consitution that would provide for the structure necessary to address all the issues on the negotiating table right now.

Absolutely spot on VP. The ROC will evolve into a BBF.

[B25]

Why is Turkey allowed to (in International terms ) Occupy the TRNC, when there are many other similar examples around the world where such a scenario has seen the intervention of the U.S and others act against it?

Dear Mr Hillarious, for the higher educated person you brag to be you must be completely and utter stupid to believe that the US/UK care about the TCs thus doing nothing to remove Turkey.

Given the US/UK are the co-architects of this invasion/occupation, they hardly have a leg to stand on to demand Turkey is removed. Surely even a 4 year old child could comprehend that much.

Yes, Turkey has been allowed to stay because they were put there for US/UK interests, not yours, not mine. To use this BS excuse to justify your continued occupation is totally lane and flawed.

OK, next idiot, please!

... and as for your child going to a US Uni, well money buys anything these days!!!!

[MrH]

B25, such a task to convert the current ROC constitution to a BBF would take decades, trust me. It took 8 years to iron out the Annan Plan when I was working on it with Talat.

Oh yeah - as for Turkey's so called occupation of the TRNC, you fail to realise that Turkey is the TRNC! You can believe all of the fantasy scenarios all you want, but the plan and simple fact at the end of the day is that a BBF is not desired by your administration, the TRNC IS NOW WELL establish like Taiwan and Tibet, and Turkey is not going anywhere. I would even say that annexation of Northern Cyprus is very near considering the was recent water pipeline project, Turkey's new gas pipeline deal with Israel and the shear amount of Turks from Turkey arriving on the island on a daily basis.

I'll see u all on this forum in 5 years time discussing the same old record and receiving the same old foul mouthed reactions from dim-witted GCs like yourselves.

[boulio]

if you were working on anything we see the results

[Viewpoint]

We are far from deciding if the "RoC" evolves into a BBF, we havent gotten passed the first stages yet and they are now blaming each with intrangience.....same game different date.